Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uwm.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!apollo!nelson_p From: nelson_p@apollo.HP.COM (Peter Nelson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: DesqView (VGA line correction) Message-ID: <4aba9e1a.20b6d@apollo.HP.COM> Date: 31 May 90 22:52:00 GMT Sender: root@apollo.HP.COM Distribution: usa Organization: Hewlett-Packard Apollo Division - Chelmsford, MA Lines: 53 From: shim@zip.eecs.umich.edu (Sam Shim) >In article <4ab90c6d.20b6d@apollo.HP.COM> nelson_p@apollo.HP.COM (Peter Nelson) writes: >> This doesn't make sense to me. If you turn virtualization off, at >> least with all my graphics app's then when you put it in background >> it scribbles all over whatever is in foreground. Moreover, anything >> which got drawn while in background is not retained when you put it >> back in foreground. That's the whole idea of virtualizing things: > >When you turn vitualization off and if the program does direct writes to >screen, then it doesn't run in the background. Usually this only needs to >be done for ill behaved games. Usually, most programs run fine with >virtualization. I dunno about "most" programs. I don't know *any* commercial graphics programs which are well-behaved in the sense that they don't make direct writes to the VGA control registers instead of only going through the BIOS calls, except for a few which are written explicitly for a multi-tasking environment, like CorelDraw for Windows. Certainly popular programs like PC Paintbrush IV Plus are downright naughty. When I asked ZSoft about this they said that they *had* to do it to get decent performance. >for troublesome problems. Yes, it does defeat multi-tasking, but task >switching of difficult programs is better than nothing at all. I think >I'll play around with Windows 3.0 some more and try running some of my >most difficult games and see how it handles it. Me, too. A few hours ago I broke down (some say I've been broken down for a long time!) and ordered Windows 3.0 from PC Connection for $89 plus next-day shipping. So I should have it tomorrow and I hope to give my initial impressions sometime next week. >> I already know more than some of their tech support staff. I've spent >> $120 in phone calls to them (and I only spent $115 on the program >> itself!). I can't wait for the rewards to start rolling in! > >I hope so to. I don't bother calling them. I usually log onto Compuserve >if I have any questions or need any help. There's many of us here (I think) >who are more than willing to help. So forget about them and this of us! :) I did, I did! In February I described the problems I was having and several people gave me various suggestions. None of them worked but did I write back and insult the net like another recent Desqview poster?!! No!!! I know that on Usenet you get what you pay for. (Now, if that were only true for certain software....) ---Peter