Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!zephyr.ens.tek.com!uw-beaver!mit-eddie!bu.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!apple!netcom!daniel From: daniel@netcom.UUCP (Sam Daniel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: COHERENT? Message-ID: <12746@netcom.UUCP> Date: 2 Jun 90 02:59:39 GMT References: <852@sluga.UUCP> Organization: NetCom- The Bay Area's Public Access Unix System {408 249-0290 guest} Lines: 70 In article <852@sluga.UUCP> joakimf@sluga.UUCP (Joakim Fredriksson) writes: > > Is there somebody outthere who has tested COHERENT? I saw the add in > BYTEs may issue. Its developed by Mark Williams Company. I can't say I've tested it, because I received it only yesterday. But I have installed it, and can tell you more about it than the advertisement. First of all, it works. The installation is virtually automatic, preparing a disk partition and loading 4 very compressed disks took about 25 minutes. The package is very complete, especially for the price. Partial contents: Lex, Yacc, Awk m4, mail, uucp c compiler (small model only) tar, termcap, curses, bourne shell, man pages nroff, troff (with HP LaserJet and Epson drivers) all the standard utilities from at to wc fortune and other games compress, uncompress, zcat Dos file transfer and disk formatting program kermit (with c source) micro-emacs text editor (with c source) 23 pages of installation guide 35 pages of uucp setup/user guide >1000 pages of other documentation There are some disappointments: Coherent requires an entire logical disk partition for itself; it cannot coreside with Dos in a partition, which is what I thought the advertisement said. The small model c compiler is a big limitation, but this is supposed to be Unix version 6 or 7, not System V Release 3.2. The console driver imitates a vt100, but without the application keypad mode. There's no cu, so the only way to interactively call other systems is with kermit, which does not do a terminal emulation mode. The documentation is thorough, but the c library calls are jumbled together with the rest of the Coherent commands, rather than in a separate section. Commands run together, rather than starting on a new page each time, but there is a guide at the top of the page to show what commands are documented on each page (like a phone book). They ship the manual shrinkwrapped, with the disks and installation guide stuffed inside, so my manual already has loose pages falling out of it. (It's glued together, not sewn.) Conclusion: Despite the quibbles, which are minor, it looks really good. Give it a try. Sam -- Sam Daniel * UUCP (Smart): netcom!daniel@apple.com Unisys * (Dumb): {uunet!apple | sun!amdahl}!netcom!daniel 500 Macara Ave. * Voice: 1-408-737-8000 Sunnyvale, CA 95131 * Disclaimer: Your mileage may vary...