Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!motcid!derosa From: derosa@motcid.UUCP (John DeRosa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: Formatting 800k as HD ?!? Message-ID: <3290@crystal9.UUCP> Date: 30 May 90 16:44:17 GMT Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Div., Arlington Heights, IL Lines: 47 One small piece of information. I have seen in various Macintosh Catalogs a device that very cleanly punches the HD square hole in a DSDD disk. Budgetbytes I believe. Also, someone made a comparison about traffic lanes and wide cars. I think that the analogy is wrong. The media (i.e. iron-oxide particles on a plastic plater) in the disk is homogeneous (i.e. the iron-oxide particles are not layed down in "lanes" but are completely uniform across the plater). Actually, iron- oxide is too simple of a term, most magnetic media is formed with a "soup" of ingredients including other ferris- oxides and rare earths (thus the different settings on your tape player for tape bias). For the purposes of this discussion, we will use iron-oxide. (historical note: the first tape recorders used a steel wire and were called "wire recorders. How's that for basic magnetics?). The formatting process is what causes the "lanes" to be created on the disk. This is not a physical process (i.e. grooves are not dug into the iron-oxide) but an electrical process whereby the random magnetic ordering of the iron-oxide is changed into constant magnetic "lanes". Therefore formatting a DSDD disk as HD just creates different magnetic "lanes", smaller and closer together in the case of HD formatting. There in lies the problem. DSDD disks use a different "grade" of iron-oxide that HD disks. HD disks (because the magnetic lanes are closer together) uses a finer and better quality of iron-oxide in the manufacturing process. Also the HD drives use a lower magnetic field in the read/write head to prevent problems between adjacent "lanes". BUT....who is to say that the manufacturers are not just producing one type of (higher grade) disk and putting SSDD, DSDD or HD on the outside casing? This would save them money in the long run. Therefore you could format DSDD as HD and live happily ever after. Isn't circular logic wonderful? =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= = John DeRosa, Motorola, Inc, Cellular Infrastructure Division = = e-mail: ...uunet!motcid!derosaj = = Applelink: N1111 = = I do not hold by employer responsible for any information in this message = = nor am I responsible for anything my employer may do or say. = =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=