Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!virtech!cpcahil From: cpcahil@virtech.uucp (Conor P. Cahill) Newsgroups: comp.unix.i386 Subject: Re: Tape backup performance on 386 ISA/EISA systems Keywords: tape, performance, 386 Message-ID: <1990May31.131341.15453@virtech.uucp> Date: 31 May 90 13:13:41 GMT References: <1990May25.123302.26061@virtech.uucp> <1990May26..841@rdk386.uucp> <1990May30.132457.6117@virtech.uucp> <1060@sixhub.UUCP> Reply-To: cpcahil@virtech.UUCP (Conor P. Cahill) Organization: Virtual Technologies Inc., Sterling VA Lines: 40 In article <1060@sixhub.UUCP> davidsen@sixhub.UUCP (bill davidsen) writes: >In article <1990May30.132457.6117@virtech.uucp> cpcahil@virtech.UUCP (Conor P. Cahill) writes: > >| 2. The performance of the disk due to optimizations will probably have >| little performance effect on the overall perforance on the tape write, since >| the tape write is the limiting factor. > > I'm sorry, this is just totally wrong. You must never have had a >fragmented disk. I have seen transfer rates as low as 300kBytes/sec with >a fragmented disk and streaming tape which ran in fits and starts. I see >about 4MB overall (from the time I hit return to the time the tape is >rewound) on a non-fragmented f/s. At least with standard Xenix and UNIX >f/s there is a huge gain for backup. 300kBytes/sec = 18MB/min which is much faster than any tape backup that I have seen/heard was available for a 386, so there still wouldn't be enough gain in the backup to make that much of a difference. If you still disagree, run the test I mentioned on a non-optimized disk and then run the same test after the disk has been optimized and report the results. I had one other person do that and the difference was less than 10% which would be expected anyway due to the differences in file system layout (like zillions of 1 byte files vs 1 zillion byte file). Note that I am not saying that it has no effect. I am just saying that it will not change the results for the test that I specified from 4MB/min to 6 or 8 MB/min. > I have not been able to show degradation in performance due to >fragmentation of the ufa type filesystem on V.4, so perhaps this will >all go away in a year or so. You probably won't see that much difference under one of the FFS's available for 386 unix boxes (like 386/ix, SCO Unix, ESIX). -- Conor P. Cahill (703)430-9247 Virtual Technologies, Inc., uunet!virtech!cpcahil 46030 Manekin Plaza, Suite 160 Sterling, VA 22170