Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uwm.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!unmvax!ariel!hydra.unm.edu!ee5391aa From: ee5391aa@hydra.unm.edu (Duke McMullan n5gax) Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: Re: Al battery Message-ID: <2933@ariel.unm.edu> Date: 30 May 90 02:04:21 GMT References: <12945@mcdphx.phx.mcd.mot.com> Sender: usenet@ariel.unm.edu Distribution: usa Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque Lines: 43 In article <12945@mcdphx.phx.mcd.mot.com> hbg6@citek.phx.mcd.mot.com writes: >I recently read an article about aluminium/air batteries which >was interesting but short on technical detail. Does anyone know >how these things are made and is it possible to assemble one >from readily available materials ( I have plenty of empty Coors >cans and loads of air around here :-) ). I played around with one (a kit from Edmund (Yuppy) Scientific), and came up with the proverbial "mixed review". Messy, fragile, they eat Al alloy like crazy, they make a lot of foam, and other problema variosae. The fragile can be partly fixed. Still, the membrane which allows air to dif- fuse to the anode (I THINK anode....) seems inherently fragile. It generates a lot of foam internally which appears to make it useless as a power source for caving, my main interest in the thing. One thing's for certain: it's an odd (and undescribed) alloy of aluminum that serves as the cathode (see parenthetical note above). I tried several other aluminum sources, cleaning each very carefully, and the output voltage was MUCH lower. I hypothesize...maybe I should say conjecture...naw, let's just call it a wild-ass guess...that the alloy is needed to prevent aluminum from forming its (in)famous oxide film. "It's easy to solder aluminum. It's a pain in the butt to solder aluminum oxide." -- a friend If anyone can find the details on this particular battery (it's patented; I can't find the number) I'd like to know more about it. We will reach the stars! Our power source will be sheer gumption and empty beer cans! d -- "I love eating popcorn. I think of each kernel as the skull of a conquered enemy." Duke McMullan n5gax nss13429r phon505-255-4642 ee5391aa@hydra.unm.edu