Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!udel!princeton!phoenix!pucc!PSYCH@TCSVM From: harnad@phoenix.Princeton.EDU ("S. R. Harnad") Newsgroups: sci.psychology.digest Subject: PSYCOLOQUY V1 #8 (discussion/squib : 244 lines) Message-ID: <9005312223.AA01107@reason.Princeton.EDU> Date: 26 May 90 00:35:26 GMT Sender: VMNNPOST@pucc.Princeton.EDU (Listserv to Netnews Gateway) Organization: Listserv to Netnews Gateway at pucc.Princeton.EDU Lines: 239 Approved: PSYCH@TCSVM PSYCOLOQUY Fri, 25 May 90 Volume 1 : Issue 8 New academic group interested in the nature of consciousness. Strong, Sperber, Cotnoir and culture Ecological Validity of Psychological Experiments ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GS109%PHOENIX.CAMBRIDGE.AC.UK@pucc Subject: New academic group interested in the nature of consciousness. The CONSCIOUS SYSTEMS NETWORK (CSN) is a recently formed academic group which should be of interest internationally to students in the cognitive sciences, psychology, AI, linguistics and, indirectly, the philosophy of mind. Our main concern is with the failure of science to understand the nature of consciousness as the product of a high-level function of the brain. Examples of the far-reaching consequences of this failure are our ignorance of the criteria which a brain-event must satisfy to enter consciousness; the missing neural link between language and reality; a general lack of clarity about the end-product of the visual processes and, for instance, the manner in which space is represented in the brain; failure to understand the neural correlates of mental events generally; uncertainty about the biological function of consciousness and about levels of consciousness in the animal world. The twin objectives of the network are to promote a more rigorous and methodical scientific attack on the problem of consciousness than has hitherto been in evidence, and to serve as an organ of information exchange in this respect. Among our basic beliefs are the following:- 1. Mind, and the relation between mind and brain, cannot be understood by science until consciousness is understood. Since we take consciousness to be the product of a high-level function of the brain, the problem is to find an account of this function in the precise language of the natural sciences and to unravel the manner in which it comes to be realized in the neural networks of the brain. 2. Since consciousness is a property of the organism as a whole, the only proper approach to this problem is a top-down approach, i.e. an accurately targeted application of systems thinking, the system in question being the brain-body system. 3. We believe that any key-concepts and hypotheses the investigation comes to introduce should throughout be defined or formulated in the precise language of the natural sciences with its unequivocal reference to observables. For example, any suggestion that consciousness implies (inter alia) a power of the brain to form internal representations of external objects, events or situations, should be coupled with a clarification in causal, functional or structural terms, of the precise sense in which 'representation' is here to be understood. And, functional terms should not be used without their prior clarification in nonfunctional (e.g. causal) terms. There are two main reasons for this. The greater the intricacy of a problem, the greater needs to be the care taken not only with the logic but also with the semantics of any attempted solution. No logical inference is stronger than the least definite meaning occurring in the terms of its premises. Secondly, the ultimate success of the top-down approach depends on its meeting the bottom-up approach of the neurosciences, which is already conducted in the precise language of the natural sciences. 4. These strictures apply also to the technical definition of 'consciousness' which the theory needs to introduce. The problem here is to find a formula that will satisfy the precision demanded and yet manages to capture enough of the common meaning the term to satisfy the ultimate object of the exercise. In his recently published "LIFE, BRAIN, AND CONSCIOUSNESS" (Elsevier/North Holland, 1990) Gerd Sommerhoff, co-founder of the group, has shown how these principles may be implemented, and illustrated the range of new perceptions and answers that may flow from this line of attack, including tentative answers to the issues cited at the top of this document. *** If interested, write to Kevin Murphy, 338 King's College, Cambridge, UK, CB2 1ST (group secretary), or e-mail to KPM10 @ UK.AC.CAM.PHX. from JANET, KPM10 @ PHX.CAM.AC.UK from other networks. ------------------------------ From: JERRY BARKOW Subject: Strong, Sperber, Cotnoir and culture Theories of Culture Good to see interest in culture. I argue at some length, in my recent book "Darwin, Sex, and Status: Biological Approaches to Mind and Culture" (University of Toronto Press, 1989), that it is useful to think of culture as a pool of somewhat organized information. The crucial question is not whether culture is "really" particulate but, rather, what the categories are in terms of which the brain chooses information from the cultural pool; and the attentional channels and mechanisms that regulate what kinds of information gets absorbed when and how. More globally, individuals select, edit, and refashion socially transmitted information (culture) according to algorithms that, at least in the Pleistocene, would have tended to enhance their genetic fitness. I use the traditional anthropological terminology (I am an anthropologist, after all), "mazeway," to indicate the elaborate set of cognitive maps that the individual builds using (though not only using) culturally provided information. An individual has a mazeway, a population has a culture (in which an individual participates). Social scientists (e.g., Marvin Harris) tend to provide theories theories of culture transmission either for culture change or for culture stability. The approach I am sketching out implies that only one such transmission theory is needed, one that specifies the "editing" rules in mazeway construction. "Enculturation" becomes not a passive process but, as psychologists if not many anthropologists have long recognized, an active one in which the child and adult play the roles of editors and revisers. (Contrast this approach with the Whiting focus of child training and discipline.) This is not the place in which to summarize a rather large book (which some of you may have already read), but an example of a psychological mechanism affecting culture transmission and change is the rule "learn preferentially from the high in status" (a rule that no doubt could use a great deal more empirical study). Changing ecological conditions affect the relative success of "traditional" strategies for prestige and thus can lead people to change their culture (the hunter can't find any game but the farmer is doing well so, as an adolescent, I may learn preferentially from the farmer and follow his strategy -- adolescence is a time of maximum sensitivity to differences in relative standing). How do we acquire cultural information? I argue that it is useful (note the deliberately careful choice of words) to think of the brain as processing information in Miller, Galanter, and Pribram fashion, using goals, plans, and codes. At their most basic level, these are "wired in" by evolution. But they have many "subs" added to them, and the more "subs" the more culturally labile the information in question. A language acquisition device might be the deepest of codes, but after that we have a variety of languages, dialects, etc. The goal of achieving high relative standing may be wired in but after that we find a plethora of culturally provided subplans for achieving it. (I simplify greatly, since I am leaving out a theory of self-esteem and an analysis of the relationship between primate social dominance and human striving for social prestige.) If culture is information then we may wish to think of it as consisting of subcodes, subplans, and subgoals. (Structuralists in anthropology find what I think of as subcodes in many information domains of which language is only one.) Thinking of culture as particulate is justifiable in some cases -- that is what transmission theorists like Boyd and Richerson do, and they provide some interesting results. But they have only one category of cultural "particle" and one set of transmission rules per mathematical model, and this is too much of an oversimplification. Subcodes may be acquired quite faithfully, for example, but the acquisition of subplans associated with the prestige goal is much more flexible (a statement that leads to a theory of what the adolescent identity crisis is about, but I can't summarize an entire book, here, tempted though I may be). The real differences between Lumsden and Wilson and Boyd and Richerson stem from the fact that Lumsden and Wilson appear to have codes and subcodes in mind, while Boyd and Richerson seem to be thinking of plans and subplans (Barkow, p. 265). The plan/goal/code trichotomy is very provisional -- I think the information categories the brain uses in receiving and processing information are far more numerous and subtle, and that the Leda Cosmides algorithmic approach is the way to go. But I also think that the treatment of culture transmission and change that results from even a simple trichotomy is far more powerful than is the psychology-free "meme" approach that Dawkins, among others, advocates. Comments, anyone? Jerry Barkow (E-mail to BARKOW@AC.DAL.CA, S-mail to Dept. of Sociology and Social Anthropology, Dalhousie University, Halifax, N.S. B3H 1T2. Canada.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: steve fuller Subject: Ecological Validity of Psychological Experiments ------------------------------ PSYCOLOQUY is sponsored by the Science Directorate of the American Psychological Association (202) 955-7653 Co-Editors: (scientific discussion) (professional/clinical discussion) Stevan Harnad Perry London Psychology Department Dean, Graduate School of Princeton University Applied and Professional Psychology Rutgers University Assistant Editors: Malcolm Bauer John Pizutelli Psychology Department Psychology Department Princeton University Rutgers University End of PSYCOLOQUY Digest ******************************