Path: utzoo!yunexus!geac!torsqnt!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ames!haven!adm!husc6!m2c!wpi!diwan@cs.umass.edu From: diwan@cs.umass.edu (Amer &) Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam Subject: Re: Islam and abortion - no Qur'anic guidance, relevant ahadith... Message-ID: <13146@wpi.wpi.edu> Date: 29 May 90 13:39:52 GMT Article-I.D.: wpi.13146 References: <13129@wpi.wpi.edu> Sender: shari@wpi.wpi.edu Reply-To: diwan@cs.umass.edu Organization: Dept of Comp and Info Sci, Univ of Mass (Amherst) Lines: 35 Approved: sadeghi@oxy.edu In-Reply-To: paul@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu's message of 28 May 90 01:46:25 GMT Paul, I read your note in te soc.religion.islam newsgroup and it raised some questions in my mind. Quote from Abdullah (bin Mus'ud) : vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv Then Allah sends an angel who is ordered to write four things. He is ordered to write down his (i.e. the new creature's) deeds, his livelihood, his (date of) death, and whether he will be blessed or wretched (in religion) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This appears to bring up the basic question of fate -- do human beings have any 'control' or are they predestined. Especially in 2:30 onwards (Al Baqarah, discussion on Adam) it appears that one of the main distinguishing features of humans is that they do have a will and they can make their own decisions (this is one of the features that distinguish them from Angels -- for this reason, Abdullah Yusuf Ali suggests that Iblis was not really an angel but a jinn -- I don't know what the other scholars say). I would appreciate any clarification. Salaam Amer -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Amer Diwan Department of Computer and Information Science University of Massachusettes Amherst, MA 01003 (413) 545-0256 diwan@cs.umass.edu diwan@umass.bitnet ------------------------------------------------------------------------------