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Subject: Re: Crackers: Innocent and Misunderstood, Says Mr. Kapor
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"The Moderator" notes:
 
>[ Now you go on to say a *lot* (your emphasis) of people are 'being
> harassed'. Name two or three; go ahead, I'll wait.  You want to use
> Steve Jackson Games as one example?  Ha! That's rich ... more and more
> news is coming out of that every day ... i.e. a little blurb in news
> yesterday alleging a cracker (I think previously convicted) was/is on
> his payroll.

Oh.  "Hire a hacker, lose your business?"
They have a cracker (ex-cracker, supposedly) on the payroll to help give
the game a little bit of realism, so they should have their equipment
taken away?  So if it turned out that *you* had hired, say, a drug user,
you should go to jail for dealing?  :)
More and more news every day?  Sorry... the only "news" there is that the
Feds are refusing to return the equipment, and they won't even make a 
backup of the hard drives to allow the company to function... to a *big*
monetary loss... and there's your "two or three..." they had to lay off
half their staff... 7 or 8 people... 

> And you complain that innocent users on the net are being
> harmed by the disruption in mail: why is that the government's fault?
> Your complaint should be with the administrators of e-mail relays who
> have *violated the trust of the net community* by getting wrapped up
> in this stinking mess. If I were arrested for something today, would
> you blame the government because TELECOM Digest did not get published
> tomorrow?  PT]

Naah... I think we ought to blame the government *if they blatantly broke
the law* in arresting you... for something you didn't do... or if they
confiscated your server because your organization had allowed a cracker
into its sacred ranks...

If they Feds are breaking their own rules, how can we trust them any more?


C Irby
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