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Date: 6 Jun 90 03:55:06 GMT
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 Date: 06-04-90 (11:43)              Number: 3313 (Echo)
   To: JERRY SHIFRIN                 Refer#: 3253
 From: GENE LEFAVE                     Read: NO
 Subj: LICENSING PROGRAMMERS         Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE

 JS>skills.  I see a lack of concern with quality.  New grads seem
 JS>mainly concerned with seeing how quickly they can get out of
 JS>programming and into management.
 JS>Sorry if I sound negative, but I haven't seem much lately to
 JS>inspire confidence in programming as a profession.
 .
 I agree with you.  I have trouble with the concept programmer as 
 professional.  Namely because they are, with rare exceptions, at
 the mercy of management.  I have been told to either "ship it" or
 "get out" even when I didn't feel that something was complete or
 adequate for the job. The term professional has a connotation that
 the individual is responsible for quality.  I find that in most
 instances management has the control.  In my experience most
 managers find programmers and enginneers in general about as 
 important as a second left foot.
 .
 I've slowly come around to a position of supporting some type of
 licensing if only to get some leverage with management.
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