Xref: utzoo comp.lsi:1055 sci.electronics:12251 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!kitty!larry From: larry@kitty.UUCP (Larry Lippman) Newsgroups: comp.lsi,sci.electronics Subject: Re: reverse engineering Summary: Hazardous chemicals can often do the job... Keywords: epoxy removal Message-ID: <3785@kitty.UUCP> Date: 6 Jun 90 04:44:35 GMT References: <778@fornax.UUCP> Distribution: na Organization: Recognition Research Corp., Clarence, NY Lines: 30 In article <778@fornax.UUCP>, donaldo@fornax.UUCP (Don Smith) writes: > I would like to reverse engineer a calculator watch but am having > a hard time removing the epoxy coating the chip. So far I have > tried a number of chemicals including: > acetone If you are dealing with a true epoxy compound (as opposed to say, a thermoformed polymer), you are generally barking up the wrong tree using acetone or other ketones (such as MEK, methylethyl ketone). > and hydrochloric acid. > The hydochloric acid removed the epoxy but also damaged the chip. Not at all surprising! > I would appreciate the names of chemicals which > can break up cross linked polymers without damaging the chip. The > watch is an inexpensive OEM type watch costing about $10. I can give you the names of two chemicals to try which I have personally used in years past for this purpose: dimethylformamide (DMF) and 1,4-dioxane. Your mileage will vary depending upon the actual epoxy that has been utilized. HOWEVER, THESE CHEMICALS ARE EXTREMELY HAZARDOUS and should only be used in a properly constructed fume hood by technically competent persons. Don't even THINK of trying to use these chemicals at home! Larry Lippman @ Recognition Research Corp. "Have you hugged your cat today?" {boulder||decvax||rutgers||watmath}!acsu.buffalo.edu!kitty!larry VOICE: 716/688-1231 || FAX: 716/741-9635 {utzoo||uunet}!/ \aerion!larry