Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!cs.utexas.edu!ntvaxb!ac08 From: ac08@vaxb.acs.unt.edu Newsgroups: comp.os.misc Subject: Re: Macintosh OS (was: 68000 and Workstations.) Message-ID: <26637.266e6ed4@vaxb.acs.unt.edu> Date: 7 Jun 90 15:12:20 GMT References: <6392@scolex.sco.COM> <880001@iftccu.ca.boeing.com> <1990Jun6.133723.9416@agate.berkeley.edu> <:LZ3SIE@xds13.ferranti.com> Lines: 47 In article <:LZ3SIE@xds13.ferranti.com>, peter@ficc.ferranti.com (peter da silva) writes: >> I agree. Then why only Apple include GUI as standard interface still? > > I must have imagined these machines. > Commodore Amiga. > Atari ST. > NeXT. > Xerox Star/8650. > > The last one is interesting, since it's the machine the Mac is a very limited > copy of. I first played with one in 1982, at the NCC. It's still available, > 8 years later. The Mac is a *limited* copy of the Star? Peter- you're dreaming again... :) I saw a Star a week or two ago at the Xerox showroom. It's slow, the interface is *very* primitive, and there wasn't much else to say about it... even the Xerox people weren't proud of it. > >> For others, you have to pay for GUI. For Macs, you have to pay for CLI. > There's some nice little DA and/or INIT products out there that let you do CLI on the Mac for free (or cheap shareware), but almost nobody uses them. Programmers like CLI, but nobody else does... :) > And on the Amiga, and the NeXT, you get both. And once Amiga finishes polishing theirs, it'll be a helluva system. And once the Next sells more than 10,000 of them, someone might write some programs to run on them... :) > -- > Peter da Silva C Irby ac08@vaxb.acs.unt.edu ac08@untvax