Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!image.soe.clarkson.edu!news From: nelson@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Russ Nelson) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: A proposal on a new newsgroup "comp.protocols.migrate.to.iso" Message-ID: Date: 7 Jun 90 17:07:04 GMT References: <4431@infmx.UUCP> Sender: news@sun.soe.clarkson.edu Reply-To: nelson@clutx.clarkson.edu Organization: Clarkson University, Potsdam NY Lines: 114 In-reply-to: kwang@infmx.UUCP's message of 6 Jun 90 19:23:59 GMT In article <4431@infmx.UUCP> kwang@infmx.UUCP (Kwang Sung) writes: If you are saying same words to Korea or Japan Government/Industries/ Universities, they are going to laugh. I just went into 'irc' (Interactive Relay Chat), and did a '/links' command. The hosts that are linked into irc are listed below. Not only is Europe well represented, so is Japan. Perhaps you're right about OSI, but when people want to internetwork today, they get on the Internet. noc.belwue.de (BELWUE (Stuttgart), West Germany) uni-ulm.de ([titania.mathematik.uni-ulm.de] University of Ulm,) uni-kl.de ([popper.informatik.uni-kl.de] [131.246.8.80]Univer) rwth-aachen.de ([cip-s01.informatik.rwth-aachen.de] [192.35.229.11) ira.uka.de ([iraun1.ira.uka.de] University of Karlsruhe, FRG) zephyr.cair.du.edu (University of Denver's International Server) s.ms.uky.edu (University of Kentucky) xanth.cs.odu.edu (Magical land of Xanth Server) suna7.cs.uiuc.edu (University of Illinois at Urbana Backup) sunb7.cs.uiuc.edu (University of Illinois at Urbana Backup) garfield.mit.edu (MIT Project Athena, Massachusetts, U.S.A.) diamond.bbn.com (The Server at the End of the World) chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Brandeis University, Waltham, MA 2.4) wharfin.wpi.edu (WPI TEST server running IRC II v2.4.1) bucse.bu.edu (Boston University, Boston, MA 2.4.1) eniac.seas.upenn.edu (University of Pennsylvania, Philadelphia, PA) beach.cis.ufl.edu (University of Florida Server) slopoke.mlb.semi.harris.com (Harris Semiconductor, Melbourne FL, US fysaj.fys.ruu.nl (Rijks Universiteit Utrecht, the Netherlands) assari.tut.fi (Tampere University of Technology, Finland) otax.tky.hut.fi (Student Body of Helsinki University of Technology) cs.hut.fi ([sauna.hut.fi] Helsinki University of Technology, ) lut.fi (Lappeenranta University of Technology, Finland) tolsun.oulu.fi (Experimental IRC Server at University of Oulu, Fin) kreeta.helsinki.fi (University of Helsinki, Finland ) joyx.joensuu.fi ([128.214.14.2] University of Joensuu, Finland) jyu.fi (University of Jyvaskyla, Finland) tel4.tel.vtt.fi ([130.188.12.4] VTT--Technical Research Centre of F) nada.kth.se ([130.237.222.50] Royal Institute of Technology, St) laila.lysator.liu.se (Lysator CC at Link|ping University, Sweden) flute.er.sintef.no (ELAB-RUNIT, U. of Trondheim, Norway <2.2msa.4>) solan4.solan.unit.no (Norwegian Institute of Tech., Trondheim N) svarte.uio.no (University of Oslo, Norway <2.4>) adagio.fy.chalmers.se ([129.16.6.200] Chalmers Tekniska Lekskola) shai.sics.se ([192.16.123.226] Swedish Institute of Computer Sci) lso.win.tue.nl (Experimental IRC-Server, Eindhoven, Holland) slice.ooc.uva.nl ([192.42.115.1] Universiteit van Amsterdam, The Ne giza.cis.ohio-state.edu (Ohio State University, Columbus) schubert.psu.edu (Penn State NeXTlab IRC server) galileo.apo.nmsu.edu (Apache Point Obs.) cwns1.INS.CWRU.Edu (CWRU IRC Server) wpi.edu ([wpi.WPI.EDU] WPI's Server (others are cheap imita) vela.acs.oakland.edu (Oakland University, Rochester, MI, USA) washington.andrew.cmu.edu (A server named George(2.4)) unix.cis.pitt.edu (University of Pittsburgh Server) astsun.astro.Virginia.EDU (University of Virginia 2.4) group-w.uchicago.edu (University of Chicago - Astro) kentmath.math-cs.kent.edu ([kentmath.kent.edu] Computer Science Department, K) oddjob.uchicago.edu (University of Chicago - Astro) ux.acs.umn.edu (University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, MN) medusa.cs.purdue.edu (Chief's Server) uxc.cso.uiuc.edu (University of Illinois at Urbana (V2.4)) uni-erlangen.de ([faui43.informatik.uni-erlangen.de] Uni Erlangen) guug.de ([192.48.231.3] GUUG Muenchen,West-Germany) TU-Muenchen.de ([sunsystem1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de] TU Munich, ) tavi.rice.edu (Rice University) iroquois.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.12] Univ. of Texas at Dallas) pkg.mcc.com ([128.62.40.1] Group Talisman server at MCC, Austin) taltta.hut.fi (Helsinki University of Technology) GRASP.CIS.UPENN.EDU (U of Penna. TiTo Server, Philadelphia, PA, USA) emil.csd.uu.se (CS Dept., Uppsala Univ., Sweden <2.4.1>) mizar.docs.uu.se (Uppsala University Server (DoCS)) uceng.uc.edu (University of Cincinnati Primary Server 2.4) byron.u.washington.edu (University of Washington Server) hayes.fai.alaska.edu (University of Alaska Fairbanks) cpac.washington.edu ([bailey.cpac.washington.edu] UW IRC Server V2.2PL1) unicorn.wwu.edu (WWU Fantasy Server) hammer.me.utoronto.ca (UofToronto Server) galaxy.ee.rochester.edu (Univ of Rochester, Department of Electrical Engine) sirius.ctr.columbia.edu ([128.59.64.60] Columbia University CTR, New York C) NeXT210.NOdak.edu (You Can't Find It In the Atlas) ronin.us.cc.umich.edu (U. of Michigan ITD Consulting IRC Server) srvr1.engin.umich.edu (University of Michigan, CAEN IRC Server, Ann Arbor) oak2.math.ucla.edu (UCLA Mathter and Servant) astemgw.astem.or.jp (ASTEM Research Institute, Kyoto, JAPAN) cnam.cnam.fr (Centre National des Arts et Metiers v2.2PL, Paris,) monu6.cc.monash.edu.au ([130.194.32.106] Monash University, Australia) MED.STANFORD.EDU (Stanford Medical School Information Systems Group) hercules.csl.sri.com (SRI Computer Science Lab, Menlo Park, CA USA) ucscb.UCSC.EDU (University of California at Santa Cruz, IRC 2.4) lucid.com (Menlo Park, California, USA) utsun.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp ([133.11.7.250] University of Tokyo, Japan <2.4>) choshi.kaba.or.jp ([choshi] Kyoto Artificial Brain Associates, Kyoto,) kimura4.kuee.kyoto-u.ac.jp ([130.54.30.164] Kyoto University, Japan <2.4>) jerry.tom.astem.or.jp ([133.18.192.1] Kyoto Junction Server, ASTEM, Kyoto) eris.Berkeley.EDU (Berkeley Ultra-Hoopy Test Server) betwixt.cs.caltech.edu ((Caltech Server) ) ucselx.sdsu.edu (San Diego State University, CA USA) paris.ics.uci.edu (University of California, Irvine <2.4PL0>) ccnext.ucsf.edu (UCSF IRC Server) cssun1.cs.indiana.edu (Indiana University Test Server) iucs.cs.indiana.edu (Indiana University Test Server) silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Indiana University Test Server) irc.andrew.cmu.edu ([FAIRHOPE.ANDREW.CMU.EDU] Generic Brand CMU IRC spot.colorado.edu (University of Colorado, Boulder) hamblin.byu.edu (BYU Math Dept) cie.uoregon.edu (The Campus Information Exchange's IRC Server) uhura.cc.rochester.edu (University of Rochester - Rochester, NY) netserv2.its.rpi.edu (Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY) sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Clarkson, Potsdam, NY 13676) -- --russ (nelson@clutx [.bitnet | .clarkson.edu]) Russ.Nelson@$315.268.6667 Violence never solves problems, it just changes them into more subtle problems