Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!att!occrsh!uokmax!apple!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!aplcen!haven!udel!sbcs!ameristar!rick From: rick@ameristar (Rick Spanbauer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: An issue for the entire Amiga Community. Summary: Shareware, PD, alternate suggestion Message-ID: <1990Jun3.163532.12083@ameristar> Date: 3 Jun 90 16:35:32 GMT References: <20930@snow-white.udel.EDU> Organization: Ameristar Technology, Inc Lines: 87 NOTE: I am including text from a posting seen recently in c.s.a. This posting is not directed at the author of the comments I've included here - it is directed at the genre of postings that read something like "Wouldn't it be nice if software cost $0-99 ...". > Whereas this would remove a workable compiler from the PD, I > would like to see Patrick Quaid finish the program, and market it > in the $40 range. Finishing it would be to work out the current $40 probably isn't a realistic price point for any product that comes with support, especially a language product. Even if the guy moves 2000 units a year through direct sales that is only $80K gross - not enough to manufacture the product, pay a salary, run the phone, advertise, etc. I'm not sure that the net profits from sales on a such product would be worth even investment of evenings/weekends hacker cycles. > I love the Amiga public domain. I'd hate to lose the wealth of > software I have access to. But it is true. You can't compete with > free. I'd rather see these talented programmers compete with comercial > programs by undercutting their price with better quality, not by offering > a free, "almost as good" product. PD has its place for any machine. There is probably no better way to learn how to (or how not to) program any machine than by looking at PD sources. PD helps manufacturers who market non traditional machines (eg the Amiga) get their first year of sales going before developers come on line. However, realize that there are people who derive all their income from sales in the Amiga market (I am _not_ one of those people) - prospective PD software authors should perhaps stop and think before they launch freeware that will affect a commercial package - if YOU were deriving all your income from a particular product, how would YOU feel about some person cutting the legs out of YOUR product. Here's a suggestion: rather than going for PD glory/hacker recognition, take your clone of a commercial product and actually try to compete with it on a fair footing with the other guy. One could approach the usual software houses with the product and get them to sell it, for example. You'll derive quite a few benefits from such a move: 1. You'll get an education in what it costs to do things commercially. The collective voice of sanity in Amiga product pricing will have won another convert ;-) If you follow the engineering rags these days it quickly becomes apparent that the industry will chew you up and spit you out around age 40 unless you've aquired some business acumen by then. Until I got into doing Amiga stuff commercially, I didn't realize how naive I was about most real life business matters. I don't mean ECO101 & simple interest formulas here. 2. You'll make more money than you would doing the same thing shareware. If you choose to hype your products through magazine interviews like some do in the Amiga market, then you'll get more glory too. 3. If your clone is technically competitive, then you'll help the user community by making your competitor do his thing better. (He will be encouraged to do better rather than run because he knows you are operating under the same forces of natural selection he is) 4. With your new found revenue stream you may then have the bucks + positive reinforcement to do the Amiga a favor by continuing to produce software for the machine. 6. Depending on where you land next, it may be a good resume stuffer. In summary: the "right" thing is to distribute significant works and all clone works commercially. Right for you, right for the user community, right for the machine itself. And hell, it is considerate of other people too. If you choose to ignore what was said in this posting then consider this: sooner or later the day will come when you graduate from college and the reality of paying off your loans, getting a mortgage, paying rent, insurance, raising a family, etc is waiting for you at the door :-) The unfortunate truth for all us computer dweebs is that banks negotiate transactions in terms of dollars, not lines of PD software. IMHO, all the usual disclaimers, etc. Rick Spanbauer Ameristar