Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!uwm.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!samsung!munnari.oz.au!bunyip!lance!surf!goose From: goose@surf.sics.bu.oz (Ralph Schwarten) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: MACS & IBMS (pc's) Rather lengthy article Message-ID: <1132@surf.sics.bu.oz> Date: 6 Jun 90 07:05:37 GMT References: <20472@snow-white.udel.EDU> Organization: School of Info. & Comp. Sci., Bond University, Australia Lines: 110 From article <20472@snow-white.udel.EDU>, by CCUCARD%indsvax1.bitnet@uicvm.uic.edu (Paul Cardwell): > > > MAC (general): > > I recently used a MAC IIcx (close enough), and I thought I'd bring > up McDraw II (ver??). During its loading time, I played with the mouse > pointer. The mouse pointer was fighting to move across the screen. > I never have this problem on my Amiga. You must have loaded the software from the floppy drive :-) The mouse interupt is rescheduled to a lower priority in order to speed floppy disk access. This is not the case when using SCSI devices due to their inherent large bandwidth. Hence I have never seen this problem when loading from a hard disk. Besides.. the Amiga ponter *freezes* will it redraws windows > > Macintosh needs to design a CLI environment. User Friendly means to > make life easy not only to the average idiot, but to well versed computer > users. Amiga has both, a customizable CLI and Workbench. > Ever heard of MPW ? (Macintosh Programmers Workshop) This product provides a command line interface to the macintosh operating system. It was written for Macintosh programmers/powerusers. It provides a rich set of tools (language compilers,linkers,source level debuggers etc.. for C,pascal and assembler). It also allows (unix like, amigados like ms-dos like) access to the Mac filesystem. You know.. things like change directory, view directory, delete directory, copy files, delete files.. all those command line interface commands we have come to love. It also has a script(batch) file language that allows you to create startup-sequences (no pun intended) macintosh menus (sorta like arexx) and other fun batch file like things. It provides for multiple windows and it multitasks between them (not pre-emptive though). It also provides the facility (ala arexx) to communicate with processes running in other windows. And GUESS WHAT !!!!!! THE WINDOWS HAVE SCROLL BARS :-)))))) Something that commodore again neglected in cli windows in ver 2.0 > Macintosh needs to design a program to let you see everything thats on the > disk, and I do not mean the HEX code. Amiga can do this via CLI, and now with > 2.0 Workbench. It can preview disks using DISK utilities. See above !! SUM Utilities, Copy II MAc, The Finder, Retrospect to name a few more :-) > >iMacintosh needs to be able to multitask! This is a requirement. > Amiga Multitasks. I've used the MAC computers, I also like to do other > things at the same time. --For example: > > Word Processing while Downloading while Painting while formatting another > data disk, all at the same time. Shit... send me a movie of yourself word processing and painting at the same time :-) How the f... do you do it ? Or do you have two mic e ;-) Tell me, how do you keep mouse focus on both windows at the same time ? > > Normally I have running: Dmouse,Cshell,AtalkIII,Disk Master (or SID), and > Cygnus Ed Professional. > WOW !!!! So not only do you have a multitasking computer but you yourself are multitasking !!! "Able to use multiple applications simultaneously it's MULTI-MAN" :-) But really Paul, if I could be so bold , could I put to you that you really put a program that you are not currently working on into background, and bring the one that you do want to work on into the foreground ? Sound very similair to Multi finder on the Macintosh. Which BTW, can also download in the background > I find non-multitasking computers "BORING!" ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This line really sums up your intellectual prowess > By the sounds of you, you have the technical knowledge of a slug. Therfore you would not even begin to use the Amiga's true multitasking environment and facilities. Based on what you say above.. I would assume you use it as little more than an applications swapper (like Apple's Multifinder) >[crap about IBMs deleted] I don't mind critism of the Macintosh I use both Macintosh and Amiga computers heavily. However when a missinformed little twerp starts sprouting absolute crap about a subject that he knows little about(and speaking as if he did !!) i get a bit up in arms. Both are excellent computers. Either one has features that make it unique.. each may do a certain job better than the other. So let's stop this "My computer is better than yours because this is the computer I own" attitude, and get with it !!!! Ralph Schwarten Computing and Information Technology Bond University Gold Coast QLD Australia internet: goose@hal.nmg.bu.oz.au [Standard disclaimer applies]