Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!ucsd!rutgers!mcnc!uvaarpa!murdoch!astsun.astro.Virginia.EDU!gl8f From: gl8f@astsun.astro.Virginia.EDU (Greg Lindahl) Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: Can we avoid speculating until the TT actually ships, please? Message-ID: <1990Jun8.000125.9237@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Date: 8 Jun 90 00:01:25 GMT References: <1990Jun6.212710.15236@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> <5440122@hplsla.HP.COM> Sender: news@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Organization: Department of Astronomy, University of Virginia Lines: 31 In article <5440122@hplsla.HP.COM> andyc@hplsla.HP.COM (Andy Cassino) writes: >gl8f@astsun.astro.Virginia.EDU (Greg Lindahl) writes: > >| The TT is not yet shipping. Until it does: >| >| -- we won't have good benchmarks. > >Well, there are some good benchmarks... Darek Mihocka just uploaded to >GEnie his report on benchmarks he ran on the TT at it's Canadian unveiling. This is *exactly* why I say we won't get good benchmarks until it ships. We don't have any/enough details about the benchmarks he ran... and I won't be satisfied until I can run my benchmarks myself. >(Sorry, the report carries a copyright notice so I cannot post it!) However, >I think it tends to support the comment regarding a 1/3 speed increase for >non-recompiled code. Apparently, this performance is projected (by Atari) to >improve as the TOS on the TT is optimized. That comment isn't useful until we get an idea of what the benchmark does. Disk I/O? Screen I/O? Floating point? Compute-intensive integer operations? Just throwing a number around with no details is not useful, and inspires a lot of moaning and groaning. I'm not trying to insult here, but just make the point that the information isn't complete until we can all sit an ST next to a TT and run our favorite program. -- "Perhaps I'm commenting a bit cynically, but I think I'm qualified to." - Dan Bernstein