Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!usc!apple!bionet!agate!shelby!portia.stanford.edu!amy4.stanford.edu!bokonon From: bokonon@amy4.stanford.edu (jeffrey wishnie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next Subject: Re: Mac OS 7.0 to use point-and-click Message-ID: <1990Jun7.021852.19035@portia.Stanford.EDU> Date: 7 Jun 90 02:18:52 GMT References: <1990Jun6.171736.21153@midway.uchicago.edu> <1990Jun6.210828.1885@portia.Stanford.EDU> Sender: bokonon@portia.stanford.edu Organization: AIR, Stanford University Lines: 22 >I, for one, would love to have the option of putting the menus from the top >left of the screen to a place where they consume less real estate. And, the >black top-bars on applications don't use real-estate very productively. >Displaying only the application name is a bit wasteful. Yes, I do really wish >that I could put the main menu onto these bars---just as the Mac does. If by the black top-bars of applications you mean the title bar on top of windows, putting menus there could cause a lot of problems. A lot of Apps don't always have a window present (i.e. WriteNow or Frame with no documents open display only a menu) where would you put the menu then? I think Dave Finkelstein's suggestion to move your menus off screen (you can drop them so only about 3 or 4 pixels of the title bar show) and use pop up menus is a good solution. Also, some apps like Communicae and AltDoc have the option of hiding the menu. The main is then accessible only from the mouse button. Maybe more third-party developers could offer this option. jeff wishnie bokonon@portia.stanford.edu