Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uunet!samsung!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!uupsi!njin!princeton!phoenix!apctrc!zmls04 From: zmls04@trc.amoco.com (Martin L. Smith) Newsgroups: comp.text Subject: Re: Using FrameMaker 2.0 with LaTeX Message-ID: Date: 6 Jun 90 14:34:22 GMT References: <3503@calvin.cs.mcgill.ca> <1307@m1.cs.man.ac.uk> Sender: news@phoenix.Princeton.EDU Organization: Amoco Production Company, Tulsa Research Center Lines: 33 In-reply-to: mario@madarch.man.ac.uk's message of 5 Jun 90 17:28:33 GMT In article <1307@m1.cs.man.ac.uk> mario@madarch.man.ac.uk (Mario Wolczko) writes: ..... discussion of difficulty importing FrameMaker 2.0 PS files into LaTeX We have encountered exactly the same problem. In 2.0, the folks who wrote it were kind enough to ensure that no matter what you do, the PostScript generated by Maker cannot be included in another document, because it messes with global things. It also carefully obliterates part of the page before drawing anything. When I called our support number about this, at first I couldn't get them to understand what on earth I was talking about ("Why not stop using LaTeX anyway?"), and then they said it wouldn't be fixed. If anyone from Frame is out there, *please fix this*. It's antisocial to produce PostScript that cannot be imported. I think it's a lot worse than antisocial. It is at least unethical, maybe outright dishonest. If the manufacturer is doing this on purpose than he is deliberately sabotaging his own customers. My own employers (for whom I do not speak) are currently looking over Frame and some other DTP packages. If Frame's makers are deliberately crippling their product to prevent us from using it as a generic tool to produce PS files (and I regard unwillingness to correct such a severe shortcoming as "deliberate"), then I think it will not be too difficult to ensure that, whatever we end up using, it will not be FrameMaker. -- Martin L. Smith Amoco Research Center P.O. Box 3385 zmls04@trc.amoco.com Tulsa, OK 74102 [zmls04@sc.msc.umn.edu] 918-660-4065