Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!VAX1.CC.UAKRON.EDU!math-cs.kent.edu!redpoll!neoucom!wtm From: wtm@uhura.neoucom.EDU (Bill Mayhew) Newsgroups: comp.unix.i386 Subject: Re: Berkeley Utilities and other questions Summary: Nothing's prefect because it is all made by humans Message-ID: <1990Jun07.181253.3095@uhura.neoucom.EDU> Date: 7 Jun 90 18:12:53 GMT Distribution: na Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine Lines: 49 Wanting bugless BSD 4.3 / Sys V r 4 / Sun-os, or whatever, MS-DOS functionality, display Postscript, etc. all in a lap-top computer is a darn tall order. Toshiba is probably the closest to doing it all in a laptop in one place at one time. Toshiba distributes a release of AT&T Sys V r3.2.? that runs on the 386 based 3000 and 5000 series computers. I got a look at a Toshiba 3200 for a couple of weeks a few years ago when it was Sys V r3.1. It was a pretty decent system, but there wasn't any way in heck that I could have found all the worm holes in the short time that I had the machine. Toshiba also has, available only in Japan, a machine that is based on the SPARC CPU chip. Boy would I love to have one of those. If Toshiba imports it to the US, the projected list price is supposed to be around $10K (US funds). As far as display postscript goes for previewing ditroff output on a 386 based system goes, I am still waiting for something that really satisfies me. I can tell you, though, that even on systems thave have been built from the ground up on display postscript, namely the NeXT computer, that even that isn't WYSIWYG between the screen and printer -- though its pretty close. There isn't a portable version of the NeXT anywhere in sight yet, however. Even the color verision of the next NeXT is under pretty tight wraps, though I can verify that test versions of the next NeXT exist. Of course, the NeXT system does not run DOS either. As far as mixing MS-DOS and Unix go, I don't like any of the products I've seen there. The Sun 386i wasn't too bad, but it was slow. DOS Megre and Simultask are both slow and have numerous bugs and compatibility problems. On my own 386, I decided that I'd just fdisk between the Unix partition and a small DOS partition on my drive. That works really well, and since it is my personal system, there isn't any big deal about shutting down unix to reboot into DOS for a while to do the things that DOS is handy for. A standard Unix? It'll probably happen about the same time that there is one standard automobile for everyone. The problem is that everyone wants something different, thus there is no room to agree upon what is standard. ==Bill== -- Bill Mayhew Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine Rootstown, OH 44272-9995 USA 216-325-2511 wtm@uhura.neoucom.edu ....!uunet!aablue!neoucom!wtm