Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!nems!mimsy!haven!aplcen!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!snorkelwacker!bloom-beacon!convex.UUCP!root From: root@convex.UUCP (Superuser) Newsgroups: comp.windows.x Subject: Lost mail for you Message-ID: <9006071737.AA16412@sushi> Date: 7 Jun 90 17:37:24 GMT Sender: root@athena.mit.edu (Wizard A. Root) Organization: The Internet Lines: 70 From pescadero.stanford.edu!expo.lcs.mit.edu!xpert-mailer Sat Jun 2 15:30:39 1990 remote from convex Received: by sushi (5.51/7.0) id AA03719; Sat, 2 Jun 90 15:30:39 CDT Received: by convex.COM (5.51/4.7) id AA28425; Sat, 2 Jun 90 15:30:24 CDT Received: from Erebus.Stanford.EDU by uxc.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP (5.62+/IDA-1.2.8-900601) id AA04077 (for salevin%drlc1.UUCP@convex.com); Sat, 2 Jun 90 15:26:01 -0500 Received: from Hanauma.Stanford.EDU by erebus.Stanford.EDU with TCP; Sat, 2 Jun 90 13:26:02 PDT Received: by hanauma.stanford.edu (5.51/7.0) id AA15455; Sat, 2 Jun 90 13:25:40 PDT Received: from EXPO.LCS.MIT.EDU by Pescadero.Stanford.EDU (5.59/25-eef) id AA27779; Sat, 2 Jun 90 13:24:32 PDT Received: by expo.lcs.mit.edu; Sat, 2 Jun 90 11:41:32 EDT Received: from ATHENA.MIT.EDU by expo.lcs.mit.edu; Sat, 2 Jun 90 11:40:53 EDT Received: from Shamash.McRCIM.McGill.EDU by ATHENA.MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA17213; Sat, 2 Jun 90 11:42:20 EDT Received: by shamash.McRCIM.McGill.EDU (5.61) id <9006021541.AA04752@shamash.McRCIM.McGill.EDU>; Sat, 2 Jun 90 11:41:57 -0400 Date: Sat, 2 Jun 90 11:41:57 -0400 From: der Mouse Message-Id: <9006021541.AA04752@shamash.McRCIM.McGill.EDU> To: roell@lan.informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de Subject: Re: VGA X11R4 server problems Cc: xpert@expo.lcs.mit.edu >>> But what for do you need switching to virtual terminals ??? I saw >>> the posibility for switch to another terminal from the beginning, >>> but I cann't guess who will need such a feature. >> Here's a reason. In case X hangs for some reason [...] > Perhaps I didn't mention it in the doc's to the server, but if you > press CTRL+ALT+DEL [...] the server will shut down. > The big question is: Do you need virtual terminals only for escape > (i.e in one direction) or for switching perhaps between multible X > sessions (i.e. in both directions, form and to) ? > I personally think that the escape via CRTL+ALT+DEL is sufficient > enougth for escaping X. But for real switching between terminals > there is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON. Tell you what. Don't tell me what I do and don't want to do with my X server and I won't tell you what you do and don't want to do with yours. I have a reason for wanting real switching among X sessions. There are two people in my office: me and one other. There is only one X screen in the office. It would be very nice if we could each have our own X session going, with the ability to switch between sessions at the tap of a key. There have been various programs produced which give a rooms-like effect by iconifying and uniconifying windows, but this isn't good enough: the switch must also switch window managers, should switch xhost and xset settings, everything - just as though there were two entirely different machines. (The console window might be an acceptable exception; xhost and xset settings *might* be another.) Now. Tell me again how there is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON to want real switching between terminals? (Okay, so I should have said I have a reason for wanting real switching *between* X sessions. Don't quibble.) der Mouse old: mcgill-vision!mouse new: mouse@larry.mcrcim.mcgill.edu