Xref: utzoo soc.motss:30033 sci.med.aids:1991 alt.sex:15106 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!ucla-cs!CORCORAN%MAINE.BITNET@YALE.EDU From: CORCORAN%MAINE.BITNET@YALE.EDU (John Corcoran) Newsgroups: soc.motss,sci.med.aids,alt.sex Subject: Re: Can you get AIDS from kissing? Message-ID: <36038@shemp.CS.UCLA.EDU> Date: 6 Jun 90 19:57:27 GMT References: <36008@shemp.CS.UCLA.EDU> Sender: news@CS.UCLA.EDU Organization: University of Maine System Lines: 30 Approved: ddodell@stjhmc.fidonet.org (David Dodell) Note: Copyright 1990 by Daniel R. Greening. Permission granted for Note: non-commercial reproduction. Archive-number: 2151 The studies I've seen on transmission of HIV indicate that not only is *contact* with HIV infected body fluid necessary, but there must be a certain *concentration* of HIV in that body fluid. For example, HIV has been detected in tears, urine, saliva, etc., as well as in blood and semen, but transmission via the first three is unlikely because the concentration of HIV in those fluids is so slight. Researchers for Health and Welfare Canada went even further to dispute the effectiveness of transmission through the mouth at all. HIV is easily killed by digestive acids, and baring great open wounds in the mouth, transmission was unlikely. This led several organizations to place oral sex without a condom (insertive or receptive) on the 'minimal risk' category. But this is controversial. US studies have identified 10 cases of HIV infection attributed to oral sex only. While this is largely guesswork, so is the HW-C study. I think it's better to err on the cautious side. I think the only way that kissing (deep or whatever) would be a likely vector for transmission is if *both* participants have significant bleeding wounds in their mouths. Traces aren't, from what I've read, going to do it. --J. Corcoran@Portland/Corcoran@maine are: John Corcoran ============ (.bitnet or .maine.edu) Phil Dept./Core == == "And now, what will become of us U. So. Maine === === without any barbarians? Those people Portland, ME ==== ==== were a kind of solution." 04103 ===== ===== --C.P. Cavafy 207-780-4226 ============