Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!zephyr.ens.tek.com!uw-beaver!rice!cs.utexas.edu!rutgers!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: gevans@oiscola.columbia.ncr.com (GKEvans) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Re: Justification by Faith (was: The New Revised Standard, just out!) Message-ID: Date: 7 Jun 90 03:35:10 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Organization: NCR/OISD Columbia Lines: 47 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu In article cms@dragon.uucp writes: > Actually, I have always considered I Corinthians 13:1-13 to be the test of a >Bible translation. NRSV has a good one: > [I Corinthians 13:1-3 here] > Love is patient; love is kind; love is not envious or boastful or arrogant or >rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; it >does not rejoice in wrongdoing, but rejoices in the truth. It bears all >things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. and on.... A great chapter. But only the KJV (which is not my favorite) really captures the force of the Greek AGAPE (AGAPO - I love) by using the word 'charity' in place of the overwrought English 'love'. As you point out later, >..... Love is the greatest of all the gifts of God. But AGAPE is not just God's love toward us, it is also our love for him and for our fellow men which is qualitatively identical with his love for us. >Comments? I have only addressed a tangent to your question about justification by faith, but my comment is: agape love seems impossible at times for me, so thank God he has no trouble loving us that way. Here is an interesting tidbit for the group: In John 21 Jesus asks Peter 3 times: "do you love me?" and Peter responds each time "you know I love you." The part that gets lost in English is that the first 2 times Jesus uses the verb AGAPO, and the 3rd time he uses the verb PHILEO (a more brotherly, familial love). All 3 times, however, Peter answers with PHILEO - even when Jesus uses AGAPO. Just food for thought. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary K. Evans, Software type |"Come now, and let us reason together..." gevans@oiscola.columbia.ncr.com | (Isa. 1:18) These are my opinions, | and not my employer's. | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------