Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!tdatirv!swf From: swf@tdatirv.UUCP (swf) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: Hayes vs. Searle Message-ID: <114@tdatirv.UUCP> Date: 10 Jun 90 15:30:56 GMT References: <4550@castle.ed.ac.uk> <3204@se-sd.SanDiego.NCR.COM> <1990Jun9.154316.29020@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> Reply-To: swf@tdatirv.UUCP () Organization: Teradata Corp., Irvine Lines: 39 In article <1990Jun9.154316.29020@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> (Ward Page) writes: > >You're right. I believe that this is at the heart of his argument. There >is an interesting thought experiment in Moravecs 'Mind Children' that >talks about this. The argument goes this way: If an artificial neuron were >developed that exactly mimics (functionally) a brain cell and you replaced >one neuron in the brain with this artificial neuron, would you still be >capable of thought? If the answer is yes, how many neurons could you replace >before you are incapable of thought? At the heart of this thought experiment >is the ability to exactly mimic a neuron. Searle would have to reject this >to refute the argument (assuming the artificial neuron is made of different >stuff than the real neuron). > This is very interesting, given that most current research in neural networks is being done using simulations on serial computers, rather than actual neural net hardware. I think I can now give a skeleton outline of the "rule book" used in the Chinese Room. There are two subsets to the rule-set. The first is a functional description of the neural network complex that is formed by the linguistic centers of the human brain. (Sufficient to either simulate or construct a replica of it) The second rule-set is a description of the particular connection weights by which the linguistic NN is specialized for Chinese, rather than some other language. Now simulate the result on a sufficiently powerful computer, using a standard NN simulation (or in a Chinese Room with enough workers). The result: A Chinese Room that processes Chinese *exactly* the same way as humans do, but in silicon rather than carbon!! Now, either the CR "understands" Chinese, or *no* human "understands" Chinese, since both are using the same mechanism!! Now admittedly, this is beyond current technology, but it is certainly theoretically plausible, given current directions in AI research. Perhaps this is the "intuitive" counter-argument that was previously asked for? ---------------------- uunet!tdatirv!swf (Stanley Friesen) swf@tdatirv.UUCP