Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!iuvax!cica!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!samsung!sdd.hp.com!ucsd!usc!ucla-cs!oahu.cs.ucla.edu!martin From: martin@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (david l. martin) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: Hayes vs. Searle Message-ID: <36193@shemp.CS.UCLA.EDU> Date: 12 Jun 90 23:25:41 GMT References: <2687@skye.ed.ac.uk> <36091@shemp.CS.UCLA.EDU> <587@dlogics.COM> Sender: news@CS.UCLA.EDU Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Lines: 16 In article <587@dlogics.COM> dsa@dlogics.COM (David Angulo) writes: >I think that's the crux of Searle's flaw (or perhaps just one of many). How >can you assume what the computer program is going to look like when you have >no idea what the problem even is yet? Granted, given Searle's type of book >of all possible questions and answers, there would probably be no intelligence. >That's probably not what the program will look like, however. Maybe the >program won't look ANYTHING like language. I think out of fairness to Searle we have to grant that he has been arguing about computer programs in the conventional sense of the term. Any such program can be viewed as a set of instructions in some language. If there is a computer that can run the program, then conceivably Searle could carry out the same set of instructions (albeit at a much slower pace, with the help of pencil and paper, etc., etc.). Dave Martin