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From: jim@se-sd.SanDiego.NCR.COM (Jim Ruehlin)
Newsgroups: comp.ai
Subject: Re: Hayes vs. Searle
Message-ID: <3305@se-sd.SanDiego.NCR.COM>
Date: 14 Jun 90 21:17:07 GMT
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In article <31624@ut-emx.UUCP> churchh@ut-emx.UUCP (Henry Churchyard) writes:
>In article <3204@se-sd.SanDiego.NCR.COM> Jim Ruehlin writes:
>
 >According to Searle in the Chinese Room paper, the difference is that
>>human brain tissue has some "magical" (my word) quality that provides for
>>intelligence/understanding/causitive powers, while mere silicon doesn't.
>
 >It seems to me that this is the real point of his paper - brain mass is
>    What about the Penrose book (_The_Emperor's_New_Mind_, 1989),
>where he argues that brain tissue might be different because of
>quantum mechanical effects.  I'm not saying that this position is
>necessarily correct, but the argument has been seriously made.

Interesting!  I hadn't heard about this.  Can you give more details on
this book, Penrose's arguments, etc.?  I've put it on my reading list,
but it's so long already it may take a while for me to get to it.




- Jim Ruehlin