Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!att!bellcore!rutgers!ucsd!sdd.hp.com!samsung!cs.utexas.edu!ut-emx!infotel!smunews!ti-csl!choctaw!peterson From: peterson@choctaw.csc.ti.com (Bob Peterson) Newsgroups: comp.databases Subject: OODB Standards Efforts (was: Re: SQL Poser) Summary: There is some effort underway. Keywords: ANSI OODB Message-ID: <127850@ti-csl.csc.ti.com> Date: 13 Jun 90 19:06:09 GMT References: <6588@umd5.umd.edu> <1990Jun1.132731.6699@oracle.com> <1990Jun4.151555.3479@oracle.com> <2371@anasaz.UUCP> <36648@sequent.UUCP> Sender: news@ti-csl.csc.ti.com Followup-To: peterson@csc.ti.com Organization: TI Computer Science Center, Dallas Lines: 58 In article <36648@sequent.UUCP> sweiger@crg3.UUCP (Mark Sweiger) writes: >The problem with the current OODB world is that there is no standard >OODB language, unlike SQL for RDBMS. Furthermore, there seems to be >no evolution toward a standard. >... >-- >Mark Sweiger Sequent Computer Systems >Database Software Engineer 15450 SW Koll Parkway > Beaverton, Oregon 97006-6063 >(503)526-4329 ...{tektronix,ogcvax}!sequent!sweiger The excerpt below (from a "CALL FOR PARTICIPATION" message) documents the origins and goals of the current ANSI OODB effort that could lead to OODB standards. A message was posted to this newsgroup last March announcing a workshop organized by this OODB Task Group. That workshop was held on May 22 in conjunction with ACM's SIGMOD '90 conference in Atlantic City. There will be a similar workshop the just before OOPSLA, i.e., Tuesday, October 23, 1990, at the Chateau Laurier Hotel in Ottawa, Canada. You might watch ACM's SIGMOD Record for papers from the workshop proceedings. This is not to claim that a standard is imminent! But the effort, contrary to your claim above, has begun. There are other problems related to OODBs, but a total lack of standardization effort isn't one of them. X3/SPARC/DBSSG OODB Task Group In January, 1989, the Database Systems Study Group (DBSSG), one of the advisory groups to the Accredited Standards Committee X3 (ASC/X3), Standards Planning and Requirements Committee (SPARC), operating under the procedures of the American National Standards Institute (ANSI), established a task group on Object-Oriented Databases (OODBTG). To facilitate further development and use of object database technology, OODBTG seeks: * To define a common reference model for an OODB, based on object- oriented programming and database management system models. * To assess whether and where standardization of OODB systems is possible and useful. Some areas of possible standardization include glossary, reference model, operational model, interfaces, and data exchange. * To complete a Final Report in 1991 containing recommendations regarding future ASC/X3 standards activities in the object database area, including how these standards would relate to existing standards. OODBTG meets quarterly. Persons interested in OODBTG should contact Elizabeth Fong, National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), Tech. Bldg. A266, Gaithersburg, MD 20899 (301-975-3250). Bob Peterson Compuserve: 70235,326 Expressway Site, Texas Instruments Internet: peterson@csc.ti.com North Building, P.O. Box 655474, MS238 Landline: (214) 995-6080 2nd Floor, Dallas, Texas, USA 75265 CSC Aisle C3