Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!mailrus!accuvax.nwu.edu!nucsrl!telecom-request From: covert@covert.enet.dec.com (John R. Covert 09-Jun-1990 1015) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: Two Cellular Phones, Same Number Message-ID: <8827@accuvax.nwu.edu> Date: 9 Jun 90 14:25:33 GMT Sender: news@accuvax.nwu.edu Organization: TELECOM Digest Lines: 43 Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 10, Issue 424, Message 2 of 5 >A friend of mine wants to have two cellular telephones in two >different cars with the same telephone number. Of course, he will use >only one at a time. The telco won't set this up for him. This really isn't technically possible. Even if he promises to never turn power on to both of them at the same time, accidents do happen. If power were on to both units at the same time, both units would respond to commands from the cells, and bad things would happen, which would generate trouble reports and possibly disturb other calls in the system due to co-channel interference. Although a single ESN may have an infinite number of telephone numbers, each telephone number can have at most one ESN. This is an immutable part of the design of the AMPS system. Although the moderator suggests that the way around this would be to convince the cellular carrier to not do its usual serial number check as part of handling his calls, this has all the problems mentioned above, plus the problem of making the roamer validation system not work. Mr. Cantor would be subject to fraud from anyone anywhere in the U.S. or Canada who knew that his phone number had no ESN. The only option is to have a portable which is carried from car to car. Some portables, especially NEC and Motorola portables, are designed such that you can install a complete set of 3 watt electronics in each car which are activated only when the portable, which contains the number and ESN, are plugged into the socket in the car. This way, someone who drives two cars can have a single phone number for each car. Or, better yet, two people who share two cars can each have their own portable and their own number will always be active in the car they are driving. /john [Moderator's Note: Actually, Mr. Covert's suggestion, re use of portables, makes a lot of sense. There are so many varieties now, and the price has come down so much, it seems far more efficient to simply transfer a hand-held unit from one vehicle to another ... and carry it when you leave the vehicle, as I do. A couple portable units, combined with call-forwarding as needed should be adequate. PT]