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From: dankg@tornado.Berkeley.EDU (Dan KoGai)
Newsgroups: comp.os.misc
Subject: Re: Macintosh OS (was: 68000 and Workstations.)
Keywords: GUI, CLI
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Date: 10 Jun 90 21:02:54 GMT
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In article <26637.266e6ed4@vaxb.acs.unt.edu> ac08@vaxb.acs.unt.edu writes:

>There's some nice little DA and/or INIT products out there that let you
>do CLI on the Mac for free (or cheap shareware), but almost nobody uses them.
>
>Programmers like CLI, but nobody else does... :)

	I tried some of those but never get used to it (but I love CLI in
UNIX).  One of the reasons is that you can hardly use wildcard on Mac
where most filenames have nothing to do with file type and none of which
I tried had such features as "list by Creator" or "list by Author".  Even
CLI it takes something unique for Macintosh.  MPW looked nice but I don't
want to type "grep "long-file-name".  And none of CLI shells, with possible
exceptions of A/UX, had nifty feature of csh or tcsh.  Maybe tcsh is not
exactly CLI because you can use curses but what I wanted was something like
tcsh + mac features (creator|author sensitive).

>> And on the Amiga, and the NeXT, you get both.
>And once Amiga finishes polishing theirs, it'll be a helluva system.
>And once the Next sells more than 10,000 of them, someone might write
>some programs to run on them... :)

	Next was very charming machine for me.  It is a true Unix machine
with even better user interface (need some polishing though) of Mac.  And
though it's slower than Mac QD, it's still faster than Xwindow, not to mention
easier to use.  It can be Mac Killer if it start using 040 and color...

Dan Kogai (dankg@ocf.berkeley.edu)