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From: louie@SAYSHELL.UMD.EDU (Louis A. Mamakos)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
Subject: Re: A proposal on a new newsgroup "comp.protocols.migrate.to.iso"
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Date: 11 Jun 90 12:26:46 GMT
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Its because of things like this that I wish the TCP-IP mailing list
would not be gatewayed to the USENET newsgroup comp.protcols.tcpip.
The S/N ratio has decreased steadily since it was gatewayed to the
newsgroup.

First of all, for the USENET folks, you should know that if you want
to create a new newsgroup, you should not hold discussion in
comp.protocols.tcpip, but in news.groups or something.  Post a pointer
to it, and carry on elsewhere.  Perhaps you don't know that the
newsgroup is also a mailing list?

comp.protocols.migrate.to.iso?  Well, sometime I think that the Milo
Medin view on this issue is correct; the ISO migration will turn out
to be from ISO BACK to TCP/IP when network users actually want to get
work done.  So much for my stand on that issue.

I remember when you could actually carry on a useful technical
discussion on this mailing list.  You know, implementations issues and
performance hack and the like.  Now, I know of many network weenies
who can't take the time to sort through the trash to find "useful"
messages.  So we don't read it very much at all.

Perhaps someone from DARPA, NSF, DoE, et al, could fund a person to
moderate the TCP-IP mailing list, making it useful once more.  Or
maybe we could form a new mailing list dedicated to what the TCP-IP
list used to be used for.  I realize now that the Internet protocol
suite has been "discovered" by the trade rags, there are lots of users
that need information.  I just think that there is still the need for
a forum for effective technical discussion.  And the TCP-IP@NIC.DDN.MIL
mailing list doesn't seem to be the place to do it anymore.

Louis Mamakos