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From: karn@ka9q.bellcore.com (Phil Karn)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
Subject: Re: A proposal on a new newsgroup "comp.protocols.migrate.to.iso"
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Date: 12 Jun 90 07:07:19 GMT
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I also support the creation of a "comp.protocols.migrate-to-osi" newsgroup.
The longer we can keep the OSI cheerleaders preaching to themselves, the
less damage they'll be able to wreak among the rest of us who are building
real networks, supporting real users, and solving real problems instead of
artificial ones.

And during slow moments it'll always be good for a laugh; perhaps somebody
can excerpt the better items for rec.jokes.funny.

BTW, I think the term "migrate" is highly appropriate here for the very same
reason that some others want to change it...

Last fall, Marshall Rose and I were among the participants in a panel
discussion on protocol standards at the NORDUNET conference in Stockholm.
Rolf Nordhagen, the Norwegian moderator, led off with a question that pretty
much said it all: "If OSI is the solution, then what is the problem?"

I sure wish I had thought of that one. But it's better that a European
said it first.

Phil