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From: jbickers@templar.actrix.co.nz (John Bickers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.tech
Subject: Re: AmigadOS 2.0, RKM's, Devlopers
Message-ID: <3758.tnews@templar.actrix.co.nz>
Date: 14 Jun 90 22:26:11 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.tech
Organization: TAP, NZAmigaUG.
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Quoted from - fozzy@bhpese.oz.au (Andrew Steele):
> charles@teslab.lab.OZ (Charles W. Widepy) writes:
> 
> >In article <11918@cbmvax.commodore.com> carolyn@cbmvax (Carolyn Scheppner - CATS) writes:
> >>In article <2259@monu1.cc.monash.oz> ins778u@vax4.cc.monash.edu.au (mr  c.r. hames) writes:
> >>> [about developer support for Australian developers]
> 
> >>You'd have to contact your local developer support organization
> 
> >This is the crap we, in Australia, have been getting for four years.

    Someone from CBM (possibly DH) posted a while back that there was a
    European version of CATS, and that Australasia came under their
    jurisdiction, not the US (sort of makes sense, what with PAL and the
    suchlike).

    We (in NZ) had our zeroth Amiga conference shortly after this, and were
    surprised to see the local CBM people turn up with some support scheme.
    While nothing has come of this scheme so far (heh) the move may have
    been prompted by Europe.

    So I think if you want to go over the heads of the people in Aust.,
    complaining to Europe might be more effective than complaining to CATS
    in the US.

> >There are a hell of a lot of developers in Australia, most of whom
> >are fed up with the total lack of support that Commodore is prepared
> >to give them!

    As a BTW, what sort of support do developers expect to get? I'm not an
    independent developer myself, nor is what I write headed for the Amiga,
    so I don't have a first hand opinion on what support should be.

    But the one developer I do know gets along well enough without CBM
    handholding. Is it pre-release hardware and software people want, or
    are they just looking for a human index to the RKMs? Can't you sign up
    as a developer (for AmigaMAIL, or whatever it's called, and the
    suchlike) directly to the States?

> With any luck, if enough of the Aust. Amiga Community say something
> then those at Commodore US who read this group may pass some of it on
> to the people who have some control as to how Commodore Aust. runs.

    Are CBM Australia part of CBM International? CBM NZ wasn't, until
    recently. Just an independent co. with a name corresponding to the
    product it sold.

    And if you want to quiz the NZ CBM guy looking after the developer
    support stuff, he's at:

            Philip Grant
            1-3 Parkhead Place, North Harbour Industrial Estate,
            Albany, Auckland, NZ. PO Box 33-847.

            Phone: (09) 415-8440, Fax: (09) 415-8452.

    This info is off the guy's business card, and not guaranteed to be
    correct... :)

> fozzy

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