Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!snorkelwacker!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!emory!mephisto!prism!gt0159a From: gt0159a@prism.gatech.EDU (LEVINSON,MARC LOUIS) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Zeos and Swan 386 clones Summary: anybody have experience? Keywords: TRW, Zeos, Swan, Diagnostics, Support Message-ID: <10491@hydra.gatech.EDU> Date: 14 Jun 90 18:33:58 GMT Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Lines: 47 References: This posting is for my co-op company; please respond to my school e-mail address I am considering buying a new 386 clone. Zeos and Swan have very enticing specs and prices. Has anybody had experience with either of these two companies (good/bad)? Both have the 1 year warranty/tech support with available on-site parts replacement by TRW. I have been pleased with TRW for the maint contracts on all the AT&T machines in the office. The DELL has a similar service/ warranty policy using Xerox for parts replacement. DELL's tech support has been EXCELLENT, but the Xerox rep in Jacksonvill is pretty clueless about PC clones - he's used to copiers. DELL provides superb user diagnostics with their machines, most companies say they provide diags then ship a machine with AMI bios diags (pretty poor). I know most people think a clone is a clone, but I have found vendor diags for such machines as AT&T, IBM, Compaq and DELL to be very useful. How extensive are the diags from Swan and Zeos? Doccumentation usually gets worse as the machines get cheaper. How good is the *new* Zeos doc book? What is the extent of Swan's docs? My concern is a generic doc pamphlet plus the user guides for all the name brand components in the box. PC Brand does this and it is practically useless. I have gotten good response from both Swan and Zeos when requesting more info by phone. Their tech reps also seem competent (for answering pre-sale tech questions). I see both of these companies as DELL copycats, except Swan seems to have more of a CompuAdd image. I don't want to buy a machinne from an unstable startup clonemaker. Zeos actually builds (OK, designs or specs) some proprietary boards. To me, this means a serious commitment. Swan (correct me if I am wrong) assembles off the shelf components. What kind of response/ feeling have other netreaders gotten from these companies? Any and all comments about these companies would be appreciated. e-mail: gt0159@prism.gatech.edu Thanks, Marc -- LEVINSON,MARC LOUIS Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 uucp: ...!{allegra,amd,hplabs,seismo,ut-ngp}!gatech!prism!gt0159a ARPA: gt0159a@prism.gatech.edu or marc@isye.gatech.edu