Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!cs.utexas.edu!hellgate.utah.edu!cc.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!jrd From: JRD@cc.usu.edu (Joe Doupnik) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.programmer Subject: Re: talking to a com port with C Message-ID: <26067@cc.usu.edu> Date: 12 Jun 90 04:35:04 GMT Lines: 33 One major factor, not yet mentioned, about using the Bios serial port interrupt (14h) for communications is the loss of characters occurring whenever the screen scrolls one or more lines. The fault lies in the video bios routines for keeping taking a long time. But then a manual, fast, assembler procedure to do the same thing also takes a long time. Deep down then the access rate into video memory is at fault. Thus, expect to lose two or three characters after a LF which scrolls the screen, on a 4.77MHz PC and a very swift 33MHz 386 box. (Hint, the video does not run at the cpu speed.) Without that scrolling part one can easily poll the Bios for 9600 baud operation on AT's and above. As was mentioned a few messages ago on the network, disk activity also produces major comms outages. Here is an assistance but not a total cure. Replace the typical 8250 (and equivalent on AT's and above) with a National Semiconductor 16550A UART chip (please, note that A!). This chip is essentially plug replaceable. The benefits acrue if the comms program can put the chip into receiver-FIFO mode so it can buffer up to 16 characters before being accessed. The Bios runs the chip without the FIFO. And a plain 16550 is no help at all because it has bugs in the FIFO mode. I put one of these chips in my 8MHz AT and with MS-DOS Kermit the loss of characters at very high baud rates (38,400 and up) from disk activity dropped way way down. Kermit puts the chip into FIFO mode and uses interrupt driven i/o, naturally. Other comms programs are beginning to do the same. Finally, one might reasonably ask if the serial port Bios pathway is intrinsically too slow and thus ought to be abandoned at first glance. Surprizingly, the answer is no! I run Kermit over serveral packages which communicate with Kermit via that selfsame Int 14, one character at a time, have to poll the darned thing, pathway. A typical throughput on a 20MHz 386 is over 15,000 baud (including overhead for Kermit packet work). An interrupt on a PC is basically a very slow instruction. Even so this path can go fast. Joe D.