Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!iuvax!purdue!haven!mimsy!tove.cs.umd.edu!folta From: folta@tove.cs.umd.edu (Wayne Folta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: Windows 3.0 Summary: My one hour tour Message-ID: <24821@mimsy.umd.edu> Date: 10 Jun 90 03:45:09 GMT References: <27@alchemy.UUCP> Sender: news@mimsy.umd.edu Reply-To: folta@tove.cs.umd.edu (Wayne Folta) Distribution: usa Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 Lines: 57 I played with a friend's 3.0 for about an hour and observed the following: 1. The Control Panel is not "pull-downable" as the Mac's is... it is a separate program. That makes it more of a pain to use. Thinking back, the Control Panel may have only been a folder in the Program Manager, so maybe it is modular, though. It allows you to set up a background that is tiled, full-screen, or bit-mapped. The "Sound" option intrigued me until I chose it and found that it only allows you to chose "On" or "Off". There were several other items like that. 2. The File Manager (you know, the "Mac-like" part) does not seem to have a Mac-style iconic view. It did have name-style listings by name and type, and a tree-style listing. Of course, you launch applications based on the three-letter file extension, as they don't have long names or file types. There appeared to be no way to arrange things in the File Manager or Program Manager and have them stay that way between boots. The Managers insisted on grid-aligning everything at the bottom of the Program Manager's window, for instance. 3. It doesn't really have a desktop like the Mac. You can iconify running processes (and their windows) and move those on the desktop, but they don't stay where you put them. Every boot sees the icons grid-aligned at the bottom of the screen. And files cannot be dragged outside of the File Manager's windows. 4. Due to the X-Windows-window-manager-like window frames, you get redundancies, with programs having "Exit" under their file menu, but you can also exit by selecting "Close" in the frame's menu. Can you guess how many times I exited a program by choosing "Close", which I kept thinking would close the window to an icon (from Sun experience)? 5. The kludges that MS has to do so that people can try to use a GUI without a mouse cause problems. There are apparently no single-key keyboard accelerators (ala the Mac's CMD-O to open or CMD-P to print, or CMD-C to copy). You must use ALT and a letter to pull down the appropriate menu, then another key to choose the option. The way they mark these keystrokes (with underlines) makes their menus busy. And they made poor choices, such as having both "Minimize" and "Maximize" for the frame ("Open" and "Close" would have allowed unique first letters). 6. From what I saw, Windows was pretty bullet-proof regarding incompatible programs, as it killed them before they killed it. 7. It does virtual memory, and allows programs to exceed 640K, which is a godsend for DOS. 8. If I used DOS, I'd immediately get Windows 3.0, but as a Mac user, I am not overly impressed at the user level (of course, I did not program it, so I cannot comment on their DDE, etc., which sounds neat). -- Wayne Folta (folta@cs.umd.edu 128.8.128.8)