Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!pequod.cso.uiuc.edu!dorner From: dorner@pequod.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Dorner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Re: System 7 talk: Hierarchial Apple Menus Message-ID: <1990Jun14.185425.640@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: 14 Jun 90 18:54:25 GMT References: <68207@cc.utah.edu> <8655@goofy.Apple.COM> <13407@wpi.wpi.edu> <41889@apple.Apple.COM> <69651@cc.utah.edu> Sender: usenet@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (News) Reply-To: dorner@pequod.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Dorner) Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Lines: 26 > The current implementation is very simple to explain and understand, The following things were also simpler: 1. MFS 2. No slots 3. No SCSI 4. Single finder I each case, the "simple" was discarded because it didn't have enough depth to handle complexity. IMHO, we have an exact parallel between MFS and a flat apple menu. The same mistake is being made; you just can't provide users with too many tools for dealing with complexity. [Yes, I know that disks manage more docs than the apple menu is likely to. Yes, I know that the Finder's "pseudo-folders" made MFS more confusing than it might have been. The analogy still holds.] The suggested "folder-means-hier-menu" would provide a valuable tool, but would cost nothing for the novice. [As for the "but a novice might use an expert's machine," argument, I detect a definite red coloration and fishy smell...] -- Steve Dorner, U of Illinois Computing Services Office Internet: s-dorner@uiuc.edu UUCP: {convex,uunet}!uiucuxc!dorner