Xref: utzoo alt.security:835 comp.sys.next:6610 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!psuvax1!psuvm!mxb126 From: MXB126@psuvm.psu.edu (Michael S Barthelemy) Newsgroups: alt.security,comp.sys.next,psu.general,psu.cac.general Subject: Abuse of System Administrators privledges? (Public/Private Files) Message-ID: <90164.185721MXB126@psuvm.psu.edu> Date: 13 Jun 90 22:57:21 GMT Organization: Definitely *not* Penn State University Lines: 65 We have all heard of computer systems abuse but here may be a new part of the issue. The question: Is what one has on their *own* storage medium public or private? and ... Does a system administrator have the right to search it if it is protected against being searched? I recently (Just a few hours ago) had my NeXT account here at Penn State Univ. locked. I can put my suspicions on the fact why it was locked because of the fact that I had a *partially* compiled copy of AberMUD (A game) on my Optical Disk. If my OD is readable only by myself is it against the law for the systemm administrator to search through *my* files on a storage medium which *I own*? Would this be a violation of the Constitution which guarantees me the right to private property? I have been told not to have the AberMUD code on my account and do not have it on my account but do they have the right to be able to tell me what I can and cannot have on my Optical Disk? And would those iles on my OD be considered a part of my account? Any intelligent replys welcome, flames ignored. Michael S Barthelemy The Computer Science Major looking for a good Computer Science School. (If you happen to know of one which you would recommend please e-mail me.) =============================================================================== To any PSU administrators who may read this: Fuck you all. {Irrational comment of the day} BTW: Don't try to console me. I am leaving the University and going elsewhere in the fall and because of the attitude problem which most of you have I am **never** going to **ever** recommend that **anyone** I know **ever** attend Penn State and if ever given the chance I will speak **very negatively** of the computer systems resources management here at PSU. You all seem to be too tied up in making the rules that you have forgotten that this is a University. (i.e. Someplace where people learn.) All people don't learn in the same way so why stifle someones learning process? To Dr. Jordan: (This is not a flame and would someone see that Dr. Jordan acutually reads this.) Your committee on Computer systems security should not be looking at what regulations that you should put on this universities greatly *underutilized* computer resources but should be looking into first what the security problems are and what can be done to fix them. Adding regulations will not fix the security breaches in the computer systems on campus. This university could gain a large amount of prestige by publishing fixes for some of the security gaps in computer operating systems. Finally, adding regulations is likely to end up chasing more students away because of the regulations stifiling the learning process for some individuals. Feel free to call me if you would like to hear any more. (Phone Number 867-6216) Side note: Don't even think of cancling this post because *I* paid for it while posting it from my B-Account here on PSUVM.