Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!umich!samsung!usc!apple!snorkelwacker!bloom-beacon!jik From: jik@athena.mit.edu (Jonathan I. Kamens) Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions Subject: Re: How secure is UNIX? (Re: Stupid man pages) Message-ID: <1990Jun12.234942.4798@athena.mit.edu> Date: 12 Jun 90 23:49:42 GMT References: <1990May23.100928.10699@agate.berkeley.edu> <720017@hpclapd.HP.COM> Sender: news@athena.mit.edu (News system) Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Lines: 25 In article <720017@hpclapd.HP.COM> defaria@hpclapd.HP.COM (Andy DeFaria) writes: >I don't know how many ways there are in Unix to read a file you're not >supposed to be able to read but if there are any then they are holes in the >files system itself. Exactly. There are quite a few known bugs in various implementations of Unix, some of which ban be exploited as security holes, and many of which have not yet been fixed by many vendors. In addition, there are probably bugs that we don't know about, and some of them can be exploited as security holes. Finally, vendors are always developing Unix, and I'm sure that you'll agree that with development comes new bugs, some of which aren't discovered for some time, and some of which can be exploited as security holes. Given all this, I think that any security which depends on the unreadibility of one file is flawed. Jonathan Kamens USnail: MIT Project Athena 11 Ashford Terrace jik@Athena.MIT.EDU Allston, MA 02134 Office: 617-253-8495 Home: 617-782-0710