Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!munnari.oz.au!mel.dit.csiro.au!latcs1!sietsma From: sietsma@latcs1.oz.au (Jocelyn Sietsma Penington) Newsgroups: comp.ai.neural-nets Subject: Re: Lippmann paper Message-ID: <8245@latcs1.oz.au> Date: 2 Jul 90 00:56:02 GMT References: <11441@rasp.eng.cam.ac.uk> <1085@carol.fwi.uva.nl> Reply-To: sietsma@latcs1.oz.au (Jocelyn Sietsma) Organization: Comp Sci, La Trobe Uni, Australia Lines: 39 In article <1085@carol.fwi.uva.nl> smagt@fwi.uva.nl (Patrick van der Smagt) writes: >In article <11441@rasp.eng.cam.ac.uk> mww@uk.ac.cam.eng writes: >>A few weeks ago there was a summary of papers and books on neural >>networks. Several people referred to Richard Lippman's well known >>paper "An introduction to Computing with Neural Nets: IEEE ASSP >>magazine April 1987" >> >>More than one person said that this paper contained errors. As this >>is such an influential and often read paper, particularly by those who >>are new to the field, I wonder if anyone would care to say exactly >>what these errors are. > >Here they are (or, at least, some of them): [2 criticisms deleted] > p. 14 figure 14 (serious) > rather misleading. A ff-network with --**ONE**-- layer of > hidden units suffices. For references, see I have to disagree with you here a little. This geometric analysis is valid if the outputs of the units are approximated by step-functions (= hard-limiters). Using continous output functions gives more power and allows a single hidden layer to suffice, but this analysis was useful in giving an upper limit of 2 hidden layers 3 years before the 1-hidden-layer proof arrived. > [2 more criticisms deleted] > p. 16, second last paragraph "There should thus typically be more than three times as many nodes in the second as in the first layer." The 'first' and 'second' should be exchanged - 3 times as many nodes in the first as in the second layer. This is clearly what is intended from the analysis preceding. >Patrick van der Smagt /\/\ Jocelyn Sietsma USD, Materials Research Laboratory DSTO