Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!aplcen!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!pikes!aspen.craycos.com!rh From: rh@craycos.com (Robert Herndon) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Patents and Misinformation Message-ID: <1990Jun28.163043.501@craycos.com> Date: 28 Jun 90 16:30:43 GMT Organization: Cray Computer Corporation Lines: 34 I have recently seen many articles in this newsgroup, which, if they weren't dangerous, I would call silly. Does anyone have a copy of the article posted a few years ago about patents written by someone who knew? Among the more absurd claims made was "If it has been published, it can't be patented." This is patently (ugh) false. If I recall correctly, someone who invents an idea and publishes it does have a limited time to apply for a patent, but publication does not preclude a patent (at least in the U.S.). I'd like to see that article again... Also, one should be very careful about EXACTLY what has been patented. XOR cursors and RMW on frame buffers seem like silly patents, but any ingeniousness/limitations in their particular use may make the patents themselves quite reasonable. For instance, it is generally believed that Bell Labs first invented and patented the transistor. This is simply not true. Bell Labs did invent and patent the bipolar(?) SEMICONDUCTOR transistor, which is a very different thing. The first transistor (that I know of) was invented and patented by someone named Lilienfeld about 1930, who made one out of cadmium sulfide and demonstrated its utility for amplifying electrical signals by building an oscillator with it. Unijunction transistors, FETs, MOSFETs, IGFETs, Gunn diodes, etc., also all have separate patents, even though they are all for "solid state" devices that amplify electrical signals. Robert Herndon Cray Computer Corp. rh@craycos.com 1110 Bayfield Dr. 719/540-4240 Colorado Springs, CO "Ignore these three words"