Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!isis!ico!rcd From: rcd@ico.isc.com (Dick Dunn) Newsgroups: comp.fonts Subject: Re: Are fonts illegal to copy?? Summary: wildly imaginative, but... Message-ID: <1990Jul2.180307.1697@ico.isc.com> Date: 2 Jul 90 18:03:07 GMT References: <7677@jarthur.Claremont.EDU> <1990Jul1.205518.12783@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> Distribution: usa Organization: Interactive Systems Corporation, Boulder, CO Lines: 37 xanthian@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Kent Paul Dolan) writes: > Sadly, there is a huge and probably irreconcilable conflict between the > quite understandable desire of a font foundry to protect their fonts' > designs, and the rights guaranteed under the first amendment. No, there is absolutely no conflict. If I produce a work (any work) which can be copyrighted, that does not deny you freedom of speech or of the press. It only denies you the right to use the work I have copyrighted without my permission. The ability to protect certain particular styles of letterforms does not in any way extend to protecting the letters themselves, any more than a copyright on a picture of a tree, or a poem about a tree, denies you the right to possess, give, show, photograph, paint, or write about trees. > It doesn't take a whole lot of imagination to forsee censorship being > accomplished by denying the intended publisher of a wildly unpopular tract > license to use _any_ font... It certainly takes more imagination than *I've* got. If such censorship could be achieved, it could be achieved right now, today, by refusing to sell the printing equipment to anyone "wildly unpopular." Note also that there are many printing devices which operate with fonts which have been in general, widespread use long enough that it wouldn't be possible to copyright them. (Consider typical dot-matrix printers.) Or are you suggesting that a provision for copyrighting fonts would somehow cause the copyright holders to institute a system of examining the motives of possible end users prior to selling a printing device using the fonts??? That too is beyond my limited powers of imagination. Fonts can be copyrighted in Europe. Have there been any abuses of the sort Kent is suggesting in Europe as a result? -- Dick Dunn rcd@ico.isc.com -or- ico!rcd (303)449-2870 ...Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity.