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Subject: URABUN
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Date: 30 Jun 90 03:46:38 GMT
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 Date: 06-27-90 (16:55)              Number: 677 (Echo)
   To: JOHN SOMERVILLE               Refer#: 668
 From: TED GOSSTYLA                    Read: NO
 Subj: URABUN                        Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE

 Sure, please give Roedy a copy if he wants one. I haven't 
 corresponded with him since the early days of work with
 Abundance. Of course, to run the new URABUN he will need 
 UR/Forth 1.1. Over the years URABUN has become less and less
 compatible with Abundance, but I would be interested in Roedy's
 opinion of my transformation of his child.

 No documentation? I believe at least half of the several MBytes
 of files in Abundance were documentation. In addition Roedy
 heavily comments his source code. URABUN has a 160K file
 which is an adaptation of Roedy's reference manual. My source
 has far fewer comments than Roedy's but I try to write 
 "self documenting" code. It works for me, but others probably
 won't consider the code so self evident. I personally didn't
 find the sample applications provided with Abundance very
 helpful. I relied on the documentation, source code, and trial
 and error. It was an interesting way to learn Forth.

 Port Abundance to C? You misunderstood me. I never considered
 rewriting Abundance for C. My decision was whether to use C or
 Forth for application development. Having Abundance in Forth 
 help me rationalize going with Forth. Rewriting for UR/Forth 1.1
 is an interim step. In the future I plan to use OS/2 2.0 and
 for the moment intend to use LMI's UR/Forth for that OS when it
 becomes available. I thought moving to UR/Forth 1.1 first would
 minimize the disruption in my firms operation. Unfortunately I
 haven't completely resolved the language question. I just order
  Borland's Turbo C++ to review. 

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