Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!samsung!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!bionet!agate!shelby!neon!pescadero.Stanford.EDU!philip From: philip@pescadero.Stanford.EDU (Philip Machanick) Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript Subject: Re: 7 vits vs. 8 bits (again) Message-ID: <1990Jul4.192457.12516@Neon.Stanford.EDU> Date: 4 Jul 90 19:24:57 GMT References: <3803@rodan.acs.syr.edu> <2414@acorn.co.uk> <1990Jun23.184530.1326@cbnewsl.att.com> <184@heaven.woodside.ca.us> <1363@chinacat.Unicom.COM> <1990Jun27.201333.10418@utzoo.uucp> <3439@adobe.UUCP> <268C0233.50F0@intercon.com> <1990Jul3.173300.6547@zoo.toronto Sender: news@Neon.Stanford.EDU (USENET News System) Reply-To: philip@pescadero.stanford.edu Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University Lines: 41 In article <3803@rodan.acs.syr.edu>, amichiel@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Allen J Michielsen) writes: > In article <1990Jul3.173300.6547@zoo.toronto.edu> henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry > >>The biggest problem with it is that nothing much speaks it except Macintoshen > >>and PCs... > >The biggest problem with it is that it's not available over the RS232 port. > >People would have written software to speak the printer protocol, whatever > >it was, but having to add funny new hardware just to talk to the printer > >was a much bigger obstacle. Not on the Mac. You didn't even need a network connector for a single Mac to talk to a LaserWriter - I've seen this done with a straight through cable. My guess is almost all PS printers come with AppleTalk because it's no big incremental cost after Adobe designed it once for Apple. > Actually, I see it slightly differently. [stuff about why localtalk is expensive] > ... Apple drove the market price for the pc card down to > help support the protocool. Hmmm. As I recall, Apple invented the protocol at a time when it was _not_ company policy to cohabit with other people's equipment. AppleTalk was integrated into Macs, and was almost no extra cost (one cheap connector per node) for Mac users. > Lastly, as a printer/sharing/LAN it has > severe/major/... limitations. For a few users or a small network, it > is great. Fast, easy, simple, cheap... For a larger network with a > light printing load, else a mixed market basket of printing, it also is > quite good. Fast-enough, easy, simple-enough, cheap. HOWEVER, for a > large netowrk (say 30 or more) users and multiple printers, say 3 or more, > it sucks the big wazolla. No surprise here. These were the intended design limits. The original LaserWriter was also not fast enough for a large group, and the Mac was intended to be networked in small groups. Has the fact that postScript has become so successful made some people forget that there was a time when only Apple was pushing it in a big way? Hence Apple design decisions embedded in subsequent Adobe implementations. Philip Machanick philip@pescadero.stanford.edu