Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uunet!mcsun!inria!mirsa!picsou.inria.fr!lagache From: lagache@picsou.inria.fr (Edouard Lagache) Newsgroups: comp.lang.prolog Subject: Standards, committees, and realities (Re: Prolog standard) Message-ID: <8265@mirsa.inria.fr> Date: 29 Jun 90 11:31:20 GMT References: <15581@dime.cs.umass.edu> <3314@goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au> <1385@quintus.UUCP> <3319@goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au> <1389@quintus.UUCP> Sender: news@mirsa.inria.fr Reply-To: lagache@picsou.inria.fr (Edouard Lagache) Organization: INRIA Sophia-Antipolis, labo SIDE Lines: 33 > > >What's needed is > >a committee who are vehemently interested in doing a high-quality job. > > You should start attending the meetings. It is worth noting that the most successful languages were not developed by a committee. For example: BASIC, "C", "C++", Pascal, PROLOG . . . . Even languages like LISP and FORTRAN didn't get their start in committees. We are still waiting for a FORTRAN-88, I don't know if the "C" standard is finally out or not, I do know people were programming in ANSI-C long before the standard, primarily because I suspect so much was borrowed from C++ (which was well defined). I was forced to abandon work partially because it was in this weird language called PROLOG that people didn't know anything about. I don't know what is going on in the PROLOG standard meetings. I do know that 2 years ago when I abandoned PROLOG, people were talking about a standard. How many more people will have to abandon PROLOG before this fabled standard comes to supposedly save the day? Sorry if this a little bitter. That is just the way I feel these days. Edouard Lagache INRIA, Sophia Antipolis - FRANCE (for the summer). P.S. Since these days I find myself trying to hack Motif and C++, this obviously does not represent the views of INRIA or my group.