Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!karl_kleinpaste From: karl_kleinpaste@cis.ohio-state.edu Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp Subject: Re: Imminent death of UUCP Zone predicted Message-ID: Date: 30 Jun 90 01:01:52 GMT References: <3016.268b8d7c@mccall.com> Sender: news@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu Organization: OSU Lines: 64 tp@mccall.com writes: I think if more people were willing to do this, it'd go a long way towards getting more people registered. So let's start a propaganda campaign to get more of 'em to do it! What I meant was that I could do it rather than getting you or uunet or anyone else to do it. Perhaps it is more difficult than I thought. Oh. Sorry, I misinterpreted your statement. Yes, you could have done it yourself, as long as your mail to hostmaster@nic.ddn.mil arrived in a replyable form. (Now _there's_ a chicken-and-egg problem. :-) There's just the one form to fill out, it's a bit obscure at points (the correct response to the hostname conversion question is invariably "N/A" :-), but that's all. You need to have identified your NSes before you send it in, but you can arrange for the exact place for MX to occur afterwards if you wish. And in fairness to those of us trying to deal with new domains, prettyplease don't let any mail escape your site with your new domain name advertised in From: lines until the root servers are advertising it, usually ~10 days after you send in your form. > [I am tempted to nuke support for !-paths and .bitnet.] I couldn't say that I blame you, but you will cause a chicken and egg problem, where you can't get onto the net (in any useful manner) without getting registered, and you can only find out about that by getting on the net. Well said. That's probably the one reason that would truly induce me to keep such support (at least !-path support, but not necessarily .bitnet support) forever. On the other hand, there's this different outlook that you can't get any connection at all until/unless you call some person on the phone with whom to set up the connection...and that person could easily insist on helping you get a domain set up first. Probability of the latter occurring: Zero and dropping. I'll keep !-path support, though grudgingly. Seriously, I wonder how many sites out there aren't registered because they think that they can not due to lack of an available forwarder? Interesting point. I don't know, but if there's one, it's too many. So there is some misinformation floating around that makes it seem VERY hard to register... There is not one good, informative, source of information on this topic... Someone could write the docs, but how would you get them to the people that need to see them? Consider me motivated. (And Ambar may be disappointed in me just a little. :-) I'll spend a couple of hours in the next week or two creating some suitable docs which I can then post periodically to comp.mail.whatever as a sort of FAQ-style article. I have to finish digging out from under my curent pile, but I'll get it done. --karl -- Depression \di-'presh-un\ n. A condition observed on return from 3 weeks' vacation to find ~2000 mail messages waiting for oneself. (And people marvel that I employ GNUS as a mail-reading interface.) (In other words, personal.general still has 130 messages; hang on.)