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From: attila@breeze.bellcore.com
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Subject: any macintosh oodb's out there?
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Date: 3 Jul 90 16:46:40 GMT
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> I received only one response to my query about OODB's for the Mac:
> 
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> From: kitchel%iuvax.cs.indiana.edu@ucnet.ucalgary.ca
>  
>         Sure.  DOME (Distributed Object Management Environment) has both of its
> user oriented GUIs on a Mac. Of course, the database server/resource runs on
> a VAX running VMS.
>         I can send you more information if you are interested. As a database
> instructor/developer it is my opinionated opinion that there are no REAL
> databases on personal computers.
>                                                         --Sid

Yes, I agree that there are no *real* oodbms available on personal
computers.  There is however heavy *marketing* action in various object
oriented + persistent programming language extensions.  They are being
peddled as real oodbms. Buyer beware!

Most of them cannot create an application independent database schema,
some have no query language at all, and most cannot query complex
objects via interobject relations.  They also typically fail to
implement transaction two-phase commit and roll back/roll forward
recovery.  Lastly they support only primitive object-orientedness only
as some sort of C++ message passing.  They lack sophisticated object
concepts available in Flavors of CLOS --Common Lisp Object System.

Now the nice part:  There is ONE *real* commercial oodbms out there from
Symbolics.  It is fully object-oriented.  The schema definition is truly
application independent.  The DDL and DML are almost identical to
DAPLEX. [ACM TODS, D. Shipman, 1981] It is written in, and fully
supports all Flavor functionality including multi-method, wrappers,
before and after methods, etc.  Release 2.1 will support CLOS also.  It
is fast and reliable.  

Statice runs on Symbolics Ivory card plugged into a MacIntosh or a SUN,
on native Ivory machines of course, or on IBM PC/PS compatibles using
CLOE software.  Runtime license is free.

Please do not write me about the details.  [I have a real application to
build --yes in Statice.]  Call Symbolics at
	8 New England Executive Park
	Burlington, MA 01803.

Leslie A. Walko
Bell Communications Research
Database and Systems Research
attila@bellcore.com