Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!cs.utexas.edu!longway!std-unix From: eric@egsner.cirr.com (Eric Schnoebelen) Newsgroups: comp.std.unix Subject: Re: Standards Update, IEEE 1003.1: System services interface Summary: ANSI tape, tar, cpio Message-ID: <773@longway.TIC.COM> Date: 3 Jul 90 04:44:27 GMT References: <385@usenix.ORG> <754@longway.TIC.COM> <767@longway.TIC.COM> Sender: std-unix@longway.TIC.COM Reply-To: std-unix@uunet.uu.net Organization: Central Iowa (Model) Railroad, Dallas, Tx. Lines: 30 Approved: jsq@longway.tic.com (Moderator, John S. Quarterman) From: eric@egsner.cirr.com (Eric Schnoebelen) In article <767@longway.TIC.COM> Peter da Silva writes: - In article <754@longway.TIC.COM> From: gwyn@smoke.brl.mil (Doug Gwyn) - > The ANSI magtape format is simply inappropriate. UNIX archives were - > designed to be single files, making it simple to transport them by - > means other than magnetic tape. - - I disagree. There are just too many organisations using ANSI format magtapes. - Tar and CPIO should both be retained, but the ability to read and write - standard ANSI magtapes... if the hardware is available... should be part - of a portable operating system standard. ANSI tape can be supported via a set of programs over the standard Unix system (ConvexOS 8.0 and above do so, along with many other "mainframe" tape subsystem features) but ANSI labeled tapes are inappropriate for file archival. With a properly designed ANSI tape subsystem, it is easy enough to have tar, and cpio (and even dump/restore) use ANSI labeled tapes, and it can be totally transparent to the user. Thus, we have the POSIX standard archive on the ANSI standard magnetic tape format.. -- Eric Schnoebelen eric@cirr.com schnoebe@convex.com Churchill's Commentary on Man: Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time he will pick himself up and continue on. Volume-Number: Volume 20, Number 88