Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!comp.vuw.ac.nz!virtue!hamish
From: hamish@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Re: AmigaBASIC on A3000 needs NoFastMem
Message-ID: <921.2691c80d@waikato.ac.nz>
Date: 3 Jul 90 22:42:21 GMT
References: <3348@crash.cts.com>
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand
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In article <3348@crash.cts.com>, seanc@pro-party.cts.com (Sean Cunningham) writes:
> In-Reply-To: message from peterk@cbmger.UUCP
> 
> Another problem with AmigaBASIC is that it didn't allow for 32bit RAM
> addressing...funny how MicroSoft, of all companies, didn't follow the rules

You haven't used microsoft products very often have you? Lucky person. Did you
know that Microsofts excel 1.0 for the MAC suffers from the same problem. It
has to be loaded in the first 1 meg of ram to work. Rumour has it that when
they ported it from the PC, they left in the 640k limit. After all who will
ever need more.

Microsoft have a knack of determining exactly what the user wants, whether the
user actually wants it or not. Apple had to write multifinder so it could
recognise excel1.0 and load it in the first 1meg automatically so that it
would work.

Other wonderful achievements in microsoft products are.

   Excel is the only product that tests for a mathschip in a mac and fails
   if there is a 68882 instead of a 68881. They didn't follow the guidelines
   and test a system bit, they performed an exception and checked the stack
   frame. The 68882 is different from the 881 and so they don't see a chip
   at all.

   The networked version of windows comes WITHOUT the special kernel.exe
   file necessary for Novell. While this may be OK, none of the manuals
   mention it and you don't find out what the out of memory errors really
   are (an error in programming) until you ring and inquire. Then they send
   the correct file out by floppy.
   (I must admit once that was sorted out, it got here within a day)

 I'm still installing word5.9, so don't know if my problems there are from
me or them. 

> that say make no assumptions about the users system.
>  
> Sean
> 
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All in all I say it's great that microsoft DON'T put out anything for the amiga
Instead of upgrading AmigaBasic, Commodore should put out a different language,
that has more structure to it. eg Pascal or Modula-2.

AND before all you basic freaks :) flame me, basic won't be structured until
it has everything a good Algol type language has, and then it won't be basic
any more. A language that will let you jump (ie GOTO) out of a loop, at any
time, to anywhere you like is a bad language. (Please don't include assembler
here! 8)

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