Xref: utzoo comp.sys.amiga.tech:13112 comp.sys.amiga.hardware:2384 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!mcgill-vision!snorkelwacker!apple!netcom!mcmahan From: mcmahan@netcom.UUCP (Dave Mc Mahan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.tech,comp.sys.amiga.hardware Subject: Re: 030 in 68000 package Message-ID: <11485@netcom.UUCP> Date: 3 Jul 90 05:06:07 GMT References: <2695@zipeecs.umich.edu> <31234@cup.portal.com> <4699@munnari.oz.au> Organization: Dave McMahan @ NetCom Services Lines: 29 In a previous article, krooglik@moroka4.ecr.mu.oz (Alex KROOGLIK) writes: > >In article <31234@cup.portal.com>, thad@cup.portal.com (Thad P Floryan) writes: > >> They didn't say WHY >> they're doing this, but it seems to me that a system using the "new" 68030 >> in the 64-pin "68000" package would be a likely suspect, er... candidate. > > I would love to know how you could physically fit a 68030 in a 68000 package. > For starters, the 68030 has 32 physical address lines, and using simple > grade 2 arithmetic, that leaves 32 pins. I would love someone to tell me > how you could add all of the complex external pin outs and ins of the 68030 > into a 64 pin DIP. Even the standard 68030 has around 114 pins (I think). They could do it the same way that Intel slimes a 16 bit processor onto an 8 bit bus with the 8088, or the way a 68008 runs the 68000 instuction set from a 48 pin chip. You cut a little here, you feature-reduce a little there..... :-) Seriously, I think you would have a problem with such a thing. Lots of the speed improvements are due to the seperate address and data busses. limiting pins and timing to conform to a 68000 standard kind of defeats the purpose. A huge cache would be nice, though, as well as faster divide and multiply instructions. > krooglik@gondwana4.ecr.mu.oz.OZ.AU -dave