Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!mcsun!ukc!mucs!cns!ran
From: ran@cns.umist.ac.uk (Bob Nutter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Re: security problems
Message-ID: <1990Jun29.150426.26943@cns.umist.ac.uk>
Date: 29 Jun 90 15:04:26 GMT
References: <9006281344.AA00445@cc2.cc.umr.edu>
Organization: UMIST, Manchester, England.
Lines: 31

In article <9006281344.AA00445@cc2.cc.umr.edu> obrennan@CC3.CC.UMR.EDU (obrennan) writes:

[stuff deleted...]
>
>...I still think that the
>information can be just as helpful by opening up a problem report with Apollo
>and announcing that problem report # so that other administrators can query
>Apollo about it without exposing the network. 
[more stuff deleted...]

...all very well, and ideal if everything was perfect. Trying to get
any sense out of Hp/Apollo these days, never mind details on an APR
that someone filed in possibly a different continent is _not_exactly_easy_
Christ, they're not even sure about our contracts with them! I know it
doesn't resolve the issue, but how many people out there have had a
patch tape *offered* them by apollo? Do Apollo tell you about
bugs/problems? Why do more problems get sorted out here than through
manual-quoting support centres? (These are all questions someone at
HP/Apollo should answer...)

Just something to think about, I suppose...

bob

------------------------------------------------------------------------
bob nutter, computer officer
dept of computation, UMIST
po box 88 manchester m60 1qd UK
tel:+44 61 200 3386
email:ran@cns.umist.ac.uk
      root@ap.co.umist.ac.uk