Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!mcgill-vision!snorkelwacker!apple!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!math.lsa.umich.edu!math.lsa.umich.edu!hyc From: hyc@math.lsa.umich.edu (Howard Chu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: Pictures on the ST (Amiga's RULES) Message-ID: <1990Jul3.061429.6414@math.lsa.umich.edu> Date: 3 Jul 90 06:14:29 GMT References: <672.26899914@desire.wright.edu> <1990Jul2.071658.16558@math.lsa.umich.edu> <725.268f2179@desire.wright.edu> Sender: usenet@math.lsa.umich.edu Organization: University of Michigan Math Dept., Ann Arbor Lines: 38 In article <725.268f2179@desire.wright.edu> arc@desire.wright.edu writes: >Hey, bud, our screens (640x200, 320x200, etc.) update at 60 frames per second. >ONLY our interlace mode updates at 30 frames per sec. DON'T even start!!! > ALso, we have a blitter and many co-proc's and the ONLY "co-processor" YOU >have is a DMA controller, BIG DEAL! Later >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >= /// | Bryan K. Fite | Arc@Desire.Wright.edu = >= /// Amiga! | ^Service Engineer^ | -or- = >= \XX/ The One | Arc Electronics, Inc. | Arc@WSU.BITNET = >= ____& Only... | Wright State University |"Ouch! Quit-it." - Bart= >= | Dayton, Ohio | Depeche' Mode, Now! = >======================================================================== Nice job of cutting down on the quotes there, "bud." Note that I said on a so-called megapixel display. I have it on good authority that the 2024 monitor, which displayes 1024x800 pixels, is only redrawn at 15 hertz. Granted, it's a fair amount of work getting 800K pixels onto a screen, but this display will only spit out 4 gray levels for all that time & effort spent in interleaving frames. My "garbage" Atari with "no coprocessors" puts out an 800x500 monochrome display at 70 hertz. For 4 graylevels I drop down to 35 hertz or so. For me to stoop to the slow redraw speed the Amiga spits out I can gain another frame time, for 16 gray levels. And this is on a stock Atari monochrome monitor, not some jazzed up $700 "megapixel" tube. I didn't bring this up to dump on your machine, I was merely quoting a figure for the sake of comparison. No need for an antagonistic attitude... [But since you brought it up ... *One* DMA controller is more than adequate, given a powerful enough selection of devices attached to it. In my case, I happen to have a NeXT box attached to my ST, and I've found it pretty adequate for most of my multiprocessing needs.] -- -- Howard Chu @ University of Michigan one million data bits stored on a chip, one million bits per chip if one of those data bits happens to flip, one million data bits stored on the chip...