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From: ergo@netcom.UUCP (Isaac Rabinovitch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc
Subject: Re: the death of the All Charge Card
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Date: 28 Jun 90 00:24:43 GMT
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In <1990Jun27.215008.3927@amd.com> phil@pepsi.amd.com (Phil Ngai) writes:

>Maybe you don't realize this, but the ACC requires you to take out
>the processor chip, which in my expert opinion (20 years of hardware
>hacking) is MUCH more likely to get a user in trouble than a simple
>motherboard swap.
Huh?  I've taken the 286 out of my machine, just because I was curious
about what it would look like.  It's just a little flat package with
leads on the surface, held to its contacts by a little metal plate.  I
understand some 286 packages are a little more complicated, but it's
hard for me to see how you can say pulling a chip could be as hard as
installing a new motherboard!

>|my Zenith machine (very idiosyncratic, physically).  Zenith sells a
>|386 replacement motherboard, but for proprietary prices.  And could I

>Gee, a new box is about $50. What more do you need?
The expertise to put it all together without frying it or myself.  Get
it through your nerdish head that there are people, of quite adequate
intelligence, who lack your skill with a soldering iron and
screwdriver.
>|go on using my 16-bit extended memory cards?

>Depending on what kind of memory you have, you'd be better off moving
>them onto the motherboard. If you can't you can always use your
>memory cards but your performance would be lower.

But your argument was that getting a 386 would speed things up.  Which
is it?

>|Also, you're comparing the list of the ACC with the street price of a
>|386SX motherboard.  The street price of an ACC is about $100 less.

>I didn't know discounts on the ACC were available,
So get on some mailing lists, and read some magazines.  Where do you
think I got my "street price"?
> it's certainly
>a much lower volume, harder to find, device so discounts are probably
>not as good in any case.
Blah, blah, blah....